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Old March 1 2012, 11:33 PM   #61
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Re: What franchise has had the closest cultural impact since Star Wars

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Old March 2 2012, 05:13 PM   #62
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Brand recognition and cultural impact are two different things.

In the UK, the likes of DW, ST and SW have had a cultural impact as most people will understand referrences to them, HP to a certain extent. As for brand recognition, you have the Disney Characters, Loony Tunes, as for the likes of DC and Marvel Comics, I suspect that had little to no brand recogniton in the UK. The recent slew of Superhero movies made have raised awarness but I supsect If I asked the average person on what they thought Marvel made (they would associate it with dried milk powder) as for DC (is that some sort of electrical company or the capital of the USA)
As a fellow Brit, I have to kind of disagree. Perhaps the words "Marvel" and "DC" might engender a slightly confused response but "Batman", "Spiderman", "Superman" - people would instantly get it.

Kids at my sons' age (3 and 5) are dressing up like Spiderman for birthday parties having never seen a film or cartoon, or read a comic, about him. They just "know" he's a hero. Same with Batman and Superman.

That's cultural impact; when the image/icon or "idea" are so embedded within our culture, that 3 year olds understand perfectly even without a clear frame of reference.

Back to the OP, here's a suggestion:

Transformers.

And not just because of the recent live action films (though they've clearly helped). Since 1984, they've been pretty omnipresent and I'd argue a big cultural impact/brand recognition around the world, noticeably so in the UK.
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Old March 2 2012, 05:17 PM   #63
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Transformers.
That's a good suggestion. Pokémon deserves consideration, too, in that case.
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Old March 2 2012, 05:38 PM   #64
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Transformers.
That's a good suggestion. Pokémon deserves consideration, too, in that case.
How about Mario then? Several cartoons, live action movie, live action television series, comics, breakfast cereals, etc.
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Old March 2 2012, 05:44 PM   #65
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Re: What franchise has had the closest cultural impact since Star Wars

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Brand recognition and cultural impact are two different things.

In the UK, the likes of DW, ST and SW have had a cultural impact as most people will understand referrences to them, HP to a certain extent. As for brand recognition, you have the Disney Characters, Loony Tunes, as for the likes of DC and Marvel Comics, I suspect that had little to no brand recogniton in the UK. The recent slew of Superhero movies made have raised awarness but I supsect If I asked the average person on what they thought Marvel made (they would associate it with dried milk powder) as for DC (is that some sort of electrical company or the capital of the USA)
As a fellow Brit, I have to kind of disagree. Perhaps the words "Marvel" and "DC" might engender a slightly confused response but "Batman", "Spiderman", "Superman" - people would instantly get it.

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Well, the Marvel/DC distinction is lost on most Americans, too. Only fans really know (or care) which character belongs to which company.
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Old March 3 2012, 02:42 AM   #66
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I never commented on individual characters from DC/Marvel as not being regonised merely the brand it's self. The likes of Superman/Batman and Spiderman are well known in the UK. X-Men or Fantastic Four might be next. But others such as Green Lantern/ Thor etc.. would be less well known
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Old March 3 2012, 04:21 AM   #67
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Sorry-my answer is NOTHING. Star Wars pasted itself right across American society in a way HP/LOTR/Avatar can never do. The products are watered down with competition-NOTHING can hold so much of the public's eye nowadays the way SW did/does. Its copied/parodied/cited endlessly, as often out of context as in.
Agreed. Star Wars references are everywhere, TV and movies are filled with them, so is pop music... Phrases like "the force is strong with you / him / this one", or "he / she gave in to the dark side" can be heard in the streets, on the bus / in subways... I've heard people whistle the Imperial March in public more times than I can count... People wearing SW-themed clothes can be seen anywhere anytime (ALL AGES!)... And we're talking about the franchise that's been around for 35 years!

I don't see how anything could be compared to this, really. HP could be #2, I don't know... But does it come close? Please...
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Old March 3 2012, 04:54 AM   #68
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Remember when people were saying Matrix was going to be the next Star Wars? I can't believe how quickly all the hype and interest died after two terrible sequels.
As for cultural impact, well, I still see a lot more references to the Matrix these days than to SW..
Really? And you live in America?
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Old March 3 2012, 05:20 AM   #69
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Martrix references, in what form, in what medium?
I can't recall the last mainstream reference to the Matrix that specifically addressed the films. If I hear/see Matrix mentioned at all it's almost in the negative as it's referring to the now overused 'bullet time' filming style.
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Old March 3 2012, 05:30 AM   #70
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Martrix references, in what form, in what medium?
I can't recall the last mainstream reference to the Matrix that specifically addressed the films. If I hear/see Matrix mentioned at all it's almost in the negative as it's referring to the now overused 'bullet time' filming style.
Yeah, I agree.. and meanwhile 30 rock had ewoks on it last week.
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Old March 3 2012, 06:12 AM   #71
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Yeah, I agree.. and meanwhile 30 rock had ewoks on it last week.
IIRC, TheForce.net used to keep track of the Star Wars references in media. It appears that, at some point, they just stopped bothering.
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Old March 3 2012, 05:37 PM   #72
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I've heard people whistle the Imperial March in public more times than I can count...
This has never happened to me.

By any chance, do you live on Byss?
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Old March 3 2012, 09:07 PM   #73
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Geek culture can sometimes exist in a vacuum. Some stuff isn't nowhere near as well-known as we think they are outside of our community. Some shows and films may drop a geek reference because there's a former (or current) geek writing the script and it's something of a personal shout-out, IMO.
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Old March 3 2012, 09:19 PM   #74
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Geek culture can sometimes exist in a vacuum. Some stuff isn't nowhere near as well-known as we think they are outside of our community. Some shows and films may drop a geek reference because there's a former (or current) geek writing the script and it's something of a personal shout-out, IMO.
and lets be honest, that can get far worse with internet forums like this one.

Of course Bronies have taken it to the (il)logical conclusion, by which I mean I can spend years in the real world, and not meet a Brony or even have reason to discuss My Little Pony. I come online, and at times (certainly on this site) im never a few more than 5 posts from a Brony.

As we saw from the Star Trek XI thread, forums have there own in-jokes, that are unique to that forum, but meaningless elsewhere.
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Old March 3 2012, 09:41 PM   #75
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As we saw from the Star Trek XI thread, forums have there own in-jokes, that are unique to that forum, but meaningless elsewhere.


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