Alternate Timelines - Page 2

Valin · February 23 2012, 12:34 AM

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

T'Girl wrote:

the Enterprise was built when she originally was, in the form we saw her in TOS, but ...

She was destroyed somehow early in her existence

In the original outline, this would literally have happened: the ship destroyed in the opening scenes was not the Kelvin, but the TOS Enterprise, with Robert April in command. However, the writers were strictly forbidden from destroying the Enterprise (even if they were going to replace it with a newer one), and Paramount ordered it changed to the Kelvin and Captain Robau.

I hadn't heard that. I would have liked that. George Kirk serving with Captain April on the Enterprise--would have tied in nicely with one of my favorite Trek novels: Diane Carey's "Final Frontier."

King Daniel Into Darkness · February 23 2012, 12:46 AM

Since "Final Frontier" takes place around 2243 (adjusted from the SFC date of 2188 given in the book), I don't see why Carey's novel can't be what later happened to George Prime, after his time on the Kelvin.

Err... assuming one coughs over the bit about him vanishing while James Kirk was a midshipman. And assumes George transferred to security to get a posting closer to home to be nearer to his boys after his tour as XO on the Kelvin.

Mr. Laser Beam · February 23 2012, 01:33 AM

I would have liked to see what a modern movie budget would have done with a TOS-style bridge. The Defiant in "In A Mirror, Darkly" was a fine job, but that was just for TV - that wouldn't work for the big screen. I assume that if the original ST XI opener had gone through, the April-era Enterprise bridge would have been more ambitious looking.

King Daniel Into Darkness · February 23 2012, 10:09 AM

The USS Kelvin's was a reimagined TOS-era bridge. Look at the captain's chair, the shape of the consoles in front and around. Pure TOS, made real.

The Wormhole · February 23 2012, 02:36 PM

Plus, it even had TOS bridge sound effects.

CoveTom · February 28 2012, 01:47 AM

The important question is whether or not, in the Abrams timeline, Pike ends up saying "boop-boop" from his wheelchair...

T J · February 29 2012, 10:05 PM

The Kelvin felt like a direct decedent of the NX-01.

February 23 2012, 12:46 AM	#17
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: Alternate Timelines Since "Final Frontier" takes place around 2243 (adjusted from the SFC date of 2188 given in the book), I don't see why Carey's novel can't be what later happened to George Prime, after his time on the Kelvin. Err... assuming one coughs over the bit about him vanishing while James Kirk was a midshipman. And assumes George transferred to security to get a posting closer to home to be nearer to his boys after his tour as XO on the Kelvin.

February 23 2012, 01:33 AM	#18
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: Alternate Timelines I would have liked to see what a modern movie budget would have done with a TOS-style bridge. The Defiant in "In A Mirror, Darkly" was a fine job, but that was just for TV - that wouldn't work for the big screen. I assume that if the original ST XI opener had gone through, the April-era Enterprise bridge would have been more ambitious looking. __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

February 23 2012, 10:09 AM	#19
King Daniel Into Darkness Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: Alternate Timelines The USS Kelvin's was a reimagined TOS-era bridge. Look at the captain's chair, the shape of the consoles in front and around. Pure TOS, made real.

February 23 2012, 02:36 PM	#20
The Wormhole Admiral	Re: Alternate Timelines Plus, it even had TOS bridge sound effects. __________________ "Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.

February 28 2012, 01:47 AM	#21
CoveTom Rear Admiral Location: CoveTom	Re: Alternate Timelines The important question is whether or not, in the Abrams timeline, Pike ends up saying "boop-boop" from his wheelchair...

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February 29 2012, 10:05 PM	#22
T J Commodore Location: milky way... there abouts	Re: Alternate Timelines The Kelvin felt like a direct decedent of the NX-01. __________________ One of the great revelations of space exploration is the image of the earth, finite and lonely bearing the entire human species through the oceans of space and time. ~ Carl Sagan (1934-1996)