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Old February 20 2012, 06:29 PM   #61
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

Case in point: The Wrath of Khan. You don't actually need to have seen "Space Seed" to enjoy that film--and I suspect that most moviegoers hadn't. (Or, at best, had maybe dim memories of Ricardo Montalban guest-starring in old Trek episode.)

As for Casablanca, I've always thought that the weakest (and most unnecessary) part of the movie is the flashback to Rick and Ilsa's romance in Paris. We didn't really need to see that acted out; the look on Rick's face when Ilsa walks into his bar years later pretty much tells us everything we need to know . . .

Let's just be thankful that Raiders of the Lost Ark didn't feel obliged to explain exactly how Indy and Marion broke up years ago.
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Old February 20 2012, 07:38 PM   #62
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

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Case in point: The Wrath of Khan. You don't actually need to have seen "Space Seed" to enjoy that film--and I suspect that most moviegoers hadn't. (Or, at best, had maybe dim memories of Ricardo Montalban guest-starring in old Trek episode.)

As for Casablanca, I've always thought that the weakest (and most unnecessary) part of the movie is the flashback to Rick and Ilsa's romance in Paris. We didn't really need to see that acted out; the look on Rick's face when Ilsa walks into his bar years later pretty much tells us everything we need to know . . .

Let's just be thankful that Raiders of the Lost Ark didn't feel obliged to explain exactly how Indy and Marion broke up years ago.
Especially since she was underage at the time.
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Old February 20 2012, 09:13 PM   #63
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But, you know it would be nice to see Carmen Carter, Peter David, Robert Greenberger and Michael Jan Friedman team up again to maybe do a Voyager, Enterprise and New Frontier novel together (of course that would be three different books, not all three crews together).
Got a kick out of this. Three of the four (Peter, Robert, and Michael) have teamed together, but they're not writing Trek: http://www.crazy8press.com/
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Old February 20 2012, 11:15 PM   #64
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

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S.P. Somtow of Do Comets Dream?
Somtow had a lengthy career writing science fiction from the late '70s onward (initially under his real name Somtow Sucharitkul). He's had a few works published in the 2000s, but apparently he's mainly focusing on his musical endeavors these days, including writing operas and serving as the artistic director of the Bangkok Opera.
Christopher, you are a beast of knowledge!

(That's meant in a good way)
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Old February 20 2012, 11:54 PM   #65
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

I know that much about Somtow Sucharitkul without looking at wikipedia, though I didn't know about the 1984 Amazing story. I probably had that at some point. I've read a lot of his short fiction in the SF magazines and picked up a few of his books; Locus occasionally has news tidbits about him. So I know stuff about him. No reason to assume other people don't know stuff too.

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Old February 21 2012, 01:26 AM   #66
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I know that much about Somtow Sucharitkul without looking at wikipedia, though I didn't know about the 1984 Amazing story. I probably had that at some point. I've read a lot of his short fiction in the SF magazines and picked up a few of his books; Locus occasionally has news tidbits about him. So I know stuff about him. No reason to assume other people don't know stuff too.

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Somtow also posts regularly on Facebook, usually about classical music!

And I feel obliged to point out that he wrote a novel about zombies, the Civil War, and Abraham Lincoln long before it was trendy . . . .
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Old February 21 2012, 01:54 AM   #67
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

Let's Get Laurell K. Hamilton to write another Trek book where Anita Blake is in Starfleet and gets her butt kicked big time.
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Old February 21 2012, 01:38 PM   #68
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^ I don't really find it bewildering because I'm a completionist myself: When I know a reference is to an actually existing text, I do feel compelled to go read that text eventually. It's just that I lay the blame for that on myself .
I do the same thing. The continuity in Trek books makes it easy, too. The authors an editors really know their stuff. I do prefer reading books in order when I can. Overall though, I'm just looking for well written and entertaining Trek lit.
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Old February 21 2012, 04:02 PM   #69
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

Does this count for this thread? PAD & his NF is MIA. I've been eagerly awaiting PAD's next New Frontier novel. Here's his response in FB to "Any idea when the next New Frontier offering hits stands?"


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I've been asking Pocket Books that very question for two years. They have yet to give me a concrete answer.
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Old March 1 2012, 03:00 AM   #70
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Let's Get Laurell K. Hamilton to write another Trek book where Anita Blake is in Starfleet and gets her butt kicked big time.
Forget Anita Blake. I want her to write another one with all that delicious naughty stuff she puts in her current book series.

Ok. Ok, yeah, maybe I'm weird. But that is some primo, well-written smut, folks.

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Old March 1 2012, 06:21 AM   #71
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

Greg Cox wrote: View Post
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I know that much about Somtow Sucharitkul without looking at wikipedia, though I didn't know about the 1984 Amazing story. I probably had that at some point. I've read a lot of his short fiction in the SF magazines and picked up a few of his books; Locus occasionally has news tidbits about him. So I know stuff about him. No reason to assume other people don't know stuff too.

Dimesdan = mad snide. (That's an anagram, son.)
Somtow also posts regularly on Facebook, usually about classical music!

And I feel obliged to point out that he wrote a novel about zombies, the Civil War, and Abraham Lincoln long before it was trendy . . . .
His Mallworld stories are quite entertaining and worth seeking out as well.
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Old March 1 2012, 04:52 PM   #72
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

Mysterion wrote: View Post
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I know that much about Somtow Sucharitkul without looking at wikipedia, though I didn't know about the 1984 Amazing story. I probably had that at some point. I've read a lot of his short fiction in the SF magazines and picked up a few of his books; Locus occasionally has news tidbits about him. So I know stuff about him. No reason to assume other people don't know stuff too.

Dimesdan = mad snide. (That's an anagram, son.)
Somtow also posts regularly on Facebook, usually about classical music!

And I feel obliged to point out that he wrote a novel about zombies, the Civil War, and Abraham Lincoln long before it was trendy . . . .
His Mallworld stories are quite entertaining and worth seeking out as well.
And Moon Dance, which pits European werewolves against Native American werewolves, is very good, too.
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Old March 1 2012, 06:48 PM   #73
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Re: Author turnover: Why did they leave, and where are they now?

To the poster who wanted another Bob Greenberger, P David, C Carter, and M J Friendman collaboration I recall reading at the end of the Deep Space novel Wrath of the Prophets with Kira and Ro being the leading characters of that one (set during the series), that they were going to collaborate on a Voyager novel, just like they did with Doomsday World Net Generation Number 12. And Deep Space Nine Number 20 (i think) Wrath....but it never happened. Thats fine because by that time in the late 90's Voyager was really sorta puttering along, and the uneveness of alot of these collaborations really was something that I could go without. I don't know why it wasn't written since it was planned, at least in the early stages. So it not happening was fine with me since i like Voyager least anyway.

Its funny today I was reading a book called Star Trek: My Brother's Keeper Book 2 Constitution by MJ Friedman and thought man this fellow stopped doing Star Trek and here is this little thread on TrekBBS.com! Now I know why he was doing his own story about and ubran man trying to find his direction in life in his late thirties, sounds like me in his late 20's! LoL Laughing on LIne as they say in compter world! But back on topic, MJF's Constituion is alof of fluffiness. Its an easy read, as most of his books are, and it's going by rather quickly. He seems to do alot of the fill in the crew of an old starship what happened back in the day type books. I get confused by all new characters he makes up and many of them are just sorta there for no real purpose other than to make up the crew. While others which, especially in this book, I guess i'd like to know more about....(like the planet's leader who is being attacked? what is thier world like, all I know is that they have purple skin and silver hair at his point, but I supposed thats the point. Who knos.

But yes Johnny Vornholt, the last one of his i read was the Genesis Force the red and black hardover, that one was at least different. But I'm not sure it was entirely sucessful in my little mind. While I did enjoy parts of it...it was perhaps my least favorite of his works I've read. But TNG #7 Masks. That was fun. As was Rogue Saucer TNG # 38 and Deep Space Nine 3 8 Antimatter! All great fun! I love how he used to comment on all how hot the women were, as a kid that was exciting because I was like wow I cant belive they are allowed to talk about Dax's spots going down her breasts and how Sisko likes to notice them and stuff. LOL I guess it wasn't as bad as the holosuite descibed in P David's Deep Space " #2 the Seige", but it made me think these were grown up books. And if they were movies they would be R! I also very much enjoyed Mister Vornholt's TNG novel #16 ; Contamination! Now that was interesting scientifically as well as a murder mystery. And it was the first Worf Troi pairing I remember, I bought it because it had a black spine with no stars on it, and at the time I had no mid- series TNG books, either they were old #1-12 or 26-37 because thats what waldenbooks had. See how my minds a kid worked. I was like wow a rare one ha ha. Anyway Margart Wager Bonano (i know i spelled that on wrong) came back last year or the year before so who knos, people can return! Let just see what happens!

(This site always signs me out before I can finsih typing why does it do this. I loose everything!) arg
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Old March 1 2012, 08:06 PM   #74
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it's "laughs out loud" or "laughing out loud" actually.
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Old March 1 2012, 08:18 PM   #75
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(This site always signs me out before I can finsih typing why does it do this. I loose everything!) arg
Did you read my long explanation about why and what you can do about it? It was in the other thread where you complained.
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