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Old February 6 2012, 03:43 AM   #46
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Interesting that Sarek managed to break tradition to marry Amanda, a human woman he clearly loved. And yet Sarek is pissed for decades because his son didn't follow his wishes and adhere to expectations. I'm quite sure Sarek raised a few eyebrows when he chose to marry an Earth woman.
Never thought of it but again you're right, Warped9. Astute observation!

Everything worked right in that episode. Yeah, you really did feel the heat on Vulcan when you watched that didn't you? I did!

The writing was beyond excellent and plotting was was good. Pacing did slow down a little prior to and during the battle scene...my guess was to make it last the full 25 minutes.

The actors did seem a bit confused during the Vulcan scenes...maybe the action was a bit too alien for them, but Nimoy was on his game and definately in the zone.

The look on Nimoy's (and Maj's) face were priceless.

I can watch it over and over and over and over...
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Old February 6 2012, 02:34 PM   #47
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Of course, it had the benefit of being written by one of the "Grand Masters" of sciene fiction, Theodore Sturgeon. How could not have been excellent?

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Old February 6 2012, 03:12 PM   #48
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Leonard as Spock is my only love.
Too bad I was born too late. But he's still number one for me.
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Old February 11 2012, 12:14 AM   #49
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Interesting that Sarek managed to break tradition to marry Amanda, a human woman he clearly loved. And yet Sarek is pissed for decades because his son didn't follow his wishes and adhere to expectations. I'm quite sure Sarek raised a few eyebrows when he chose to marry an Earth woman.
I always figured that Sarek was betrothed to someone first, then probably widowed, and was then free to marry Amanda. The events in Star Trek V would actually go to support this idea.
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Old February 11 2012, 04:14 AM   #50
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I love it less now. This is the first sign of the injection of more "action" (fight scenes) to improve ratings, after their having almost been cancelled (yes, it happened after season 1 too). I'm not too interested in fight scenes, they take time away from the science fiction, and often are contrived and embarrassing.

eh? I don't think "Amok Time" was unusually action-oriented than many episodes in season 1 were.
Yeah.

The first fight scene of the series was in the first pilot, The Cage, when in illusion Pike fought the Kalar on Rigel VII.

The second fight scene of the series was in the second pilot, Where No Man Has Gone Before, when Kirk fought Gary Mitchell with a phaser rifle.

The main premise of Arena is a really long fight scene between Kirk and the Gorn captain.

But let's not forget Kirk v. Khan (Space Seed), Kirk v. Spock (This Side of Paradise), Kirk v. Finnegan (Shore Leave), Kirk v. Finney (Court Martial), Lazarus v. Lazarus (The Alternative Factor), etc.

Seems like there was already the "injection" of action in the first season.

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Amok Time is an excellent episode.
Okay, conceded. I knew I had some memory/concentration impairment, but this alarms me, that I didn't put that together for myself. I wonder why the "action" seemed so much more blatant to me with Amok Time, then. Maybe it's because the whole episode revolves around the fight, rather than its being just one of several events in the plot. Maybe it's because it was the first appearance of that famous fight music...
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Old February 12 2012, 10:13 PM   #51
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Spock only refers to T'Pring as ''the girl'' because he's repeating McCoy's phrase. ''Ah, yes, the girl.''
He actually said "tha'gh'erll," which as we all know is Vulcan for "bondmate who spurned me for a fellow officer."
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Old February 12 2012, 10:29 PM   #52
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He actually said "tha'gh'erll," ...
Uhura: "She lovely Mr Spock, who is she?"

Spock: "She is T'ramp ... (**sigh**) my wife."

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Old February 15 2012, 10:33 PM   #53
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Old February 16 2012, 12:27 AM   #54
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Aww, come on, surely she wasn't that bad?

Rest of fandom in a thundering chorus, "YES! Yes, she was!!!"

Hmmm, maybe you're right.

(Was testing an on-line friend's makeup textures and decided to depict an even more provocative T'Pring.)

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Old February 16 2012, 03:59 AM   #55
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I love it less now. This is the first sign of the injection of more "action" (fight scenes) to improve ratings, after their having almost been cancelled (yes, it happened after season 1 too). I'm not too interested in fight scenes, they take time away from the science fiction, and often are contrived and embarrassing.
I can see your point, but I don't think those conditions are met by this episode. The duel is an integral part of the episode, as it showcases an aspect of Vulcan culture and is not presented as gratuitous or in any way "tacked on" just for action value.
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Old February 16 2012, 04:03 AM   #56
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Good gravy, all these posts and no one has yet mentioned Gerald Fried's absolutely essential contribution to "Amok Time." What great work from his pen and from the musicians as well.
Good point. Amok Time's musical score is excellent.
So good it went on to spawn an entire crop of imitators and passed into the ranks of "trope"...
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Old February 16 2012, 04:08 AM   #57
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It's not likely canon, but weren't T'Pring and Stonn blown to smithereens on a exploding shuttlecraft in a '90s TREK DC-comic?
IIRC they did indeed.

And T'pring was
in Diane Duane's excellent novel "Spock's World"
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Old February 16 2012, 04:10 AM   #58
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We have to remember that Spock's betrothal to T'pring was an arranged one, an agreement between their parents. In that situation Spock reveals he really doesn't have genuine feeling for T'pring other than a sense of responsibility. When his fever had passed and T'pring's character revealed it's easy to see how he'd have no further interest in her.

Interesting that Sarek managed to break tradition to marry Amanda, a human woman he clearly loved. And yet Sarek is pissed for decades because his son didn't follow his wishes and adhere to expectations. I'm quite sure Sarek raised a few eyebrows when he chose to marry an Earth woman.
A fact that was made abundantly clear to Spock repeatedly as a child, as evidenced in "Yesteryear" as well as JJ's movie.
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Old February 16 2012, 09:41 AM   #59
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Aww, come on, surely she wasn't that bad?

Rest of fandom in a thundering chorus, "YES! Yes, she was!!!"

Hmmm, maybe you're right.

(Was testing an on-line friend's makeup textures and decided to depict an even more provocative T'Pring.)

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I think that if T'pring looked like that; Kirk would have knocked Spock out cold before the first gong's echo had faded.
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Old February 16 2012, 11:15 PM   #60
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And T'pring was
in Diane Duane's excellent novel "Spock's World"
Oh yes. She finally noticed that having was not as pleasing as wanting; it was illogical but often true.

(Spock's World is brilliant, by the way.)
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