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Old March 11 2012, 03:09 AM   #1
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Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in FC?

This also applies to the later movies and DS9, but I was always curious why they decided to change to those dull gray uniforms with the colors only showing up on their collars and their sleeves.
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Old March 11 2012, 03:33 AM   #2
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

Because they don't look like like funky exercise clothes. The new costumes are fantastic.
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Old March 11 2012, 03:56 AM   #3
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

The FC uniforms are a big improvement over the other 24th century uniforms.
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Old March 11 2012, 07:20 AM   #4
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

Maybe an improvement over the ones used on TNG. But the ones that were used on DS9 and Voyager looked just fine.
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Old March 11 2012, 07:29 AM   #5
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

Because they were awesome.
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Old March 11 2012, 07:35 AM   #6
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

I don't think they're dull at all. I think they're fantastic.
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Old March 11 2012, 08:32 AM   #7
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

I liked the uniforms of FC. They look more professional; much more of a space military look to them.
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Old March 11 2012, 09:06 AM   #8
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

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This also applies to the later movies and DS9, but I was always curious why they decided to change to those dull gray uniforms with the colors only showing up on their collars and their sleeves.
"First Contact" had a very dark theme, so the costumes had to reflect that mood. Also, the toy licensees apply an amount of pressure; there is an expectation that the costumes will change, or at least have cool variations and accessories, in order to sell more toys. Otherwise, collectors only cherrypick and get the all-new villains and aliens, not the main cast.

The main reason they started being used on DS9 was that the expensive, motion-picture quality uniforms were available, and the old DS9 jumpsuits would have been starting to show some wear.
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Old March 11 2012, 09:21 AM   #9
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

The FC uniforms are my favorite modern ones by far. Frankly, I never understood why Voyager never got them as well, even if only post "Message in a Bottle" and contact with SF. I mean Voyager got the new phasers and tricorders when DS9 and FC did. So why not the uniforms?

Some have tried the in-show argument of 'resources' but that's BS; uniforms are recycled in and out of the replicator to be cleaned, or so we've been lead to believe. How hard would it have been on their resources to update the patterns, hrm?

Real world, they certainly would have added in and taken out new and old stock now and then, so...

*Shrug*

Always bugged me, cause the FC uniforms looked like UNIFORMS.
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Old March 11 2012, 10:15 AM   #10
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

I always thought the FC uniforms had the same problem as the TOS movie red uniforms, they look so heavy and hot, how cold do they keep it on a starship?
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Old March 11 2012, 11:29 AM   #11
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

They're bland. No interesting color or silhouette.
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Old March 11 2012, 02:36 PM   #12
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

It was done to give the TNG movies a different look from the TV series, IMO. New uniforms were designed for Generations, but they were rejected at very much the last minute.
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Old March 11 2012, 03:38 PM   #13
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

The uniforms also kept changing so they could make new action figures as well!
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Old March 11 2012, 03:43 PM   #14
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

I thought they grey-topped unforms looked good in FC, but pretty soon after they were introduced in DS9, I realized how visually uninteresing they were. And, they looked really uncomfortably hot. Tank top, coloured shirt, waistcoat then uniform jacket? Maybe on Delta Vega or Andoria, but not a climate controlled starship!
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Old March 11 2012, 03:55 PM   #15
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Re: Why did they ever make the change to the gray topped uniforms in F

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Because they don't look like like funky exercise clothes.
This is the correct answer. The old ones looked fine on DS9 because of the environment but they were hideous on Voyager.
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