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Old February 4 2012, 06:16 AM   #1
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New Singer / Fuller Series?

http://trekweb.com/articles/2012/02/...-Project.shtml

Long way from being a "go", but all I can say is, if it does happen, I hope they realize it can't be yet another Voyager / Enterprise clone.

Is there any hope for a true heir to the TNG / DS9 legacy?

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Old February 4 2012, 06:23 AM   #2
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Re: New Singer / Fuller Series?

I'm not really sure they'd need Abrams to "give them the keys," since any TV series would be under the control of CBS, not Paramount (who control the movies). I think Fuller and Singer are more than capable of coming up with a fresh take on Trek, though I'm still not sure if CBS itself would be interested in airing it. Of course, it's possible they could develop the series and sell it to another network, or something.
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Old February 4 2012, 06:33 AM   #3
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Agreed on Abrams and the CBS/Paramount relationship.

What other networks has CBS worked with? Aren't the Dexter DVDs put out by CBS? Obviously, that airs on Showtime.

That might be interesting...
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Old February 4 2012, 07:04 AM   #4
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Re: New Singer / Fuller Series?

dulcimer47 wrote: View Post
http://trekweb.com/articles/2012/02/...-Project.shtml

Long way from being a "go", but all I can say is, if it does happen, I hope they realize it can't be yet another Voyager / Enterprise clone.

Is there any hope for the true heir to the TNG / DS9 legacy?
Indeed has to be fresh like and different like DS9.
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Old February 4 2012, 07:17 AM   #5
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http://trekweb.com/articles/2012/02/...-Project.shtml

Long way from being a "go", but all I can say is, if it does happen, I hope they realize it can't be yet another Voyager / Enterprise clone.

Is there any hope for the true heir to the TNG / DS9 legacy?
Indeed has to be fresh like and different like DS9.
If we're really honest, we would see that TNG really was pretty similar to VOY & ENT, a lot of the same problems...

The difference, however, was that TNG was 1st, was on the air at a time when there had been no ST on TV for 20 years, also, it was full of great actors and characters, whereas VOY & ENT clearly were not. Additionally, the writing, for the most part was so much better than VOY & ENT.

Anyway, didn't mean to rant, but any new series must, it seems to me, continue the growth and maturation of ST that DS9 showed.
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Old February 4 2012, 08:17 AM   #6
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Re: New Singer / Fuller Series?

I want a Kelvin series! I haven't read the articles yet but if they want to do it in the new universe then that makes it more likely to get made. From the sounds of it, David Foster's idea which was set in the prime universe required knowledge of all the previous Star Treks and so I doubt it would be accepted.
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Old February 4 2012, 08:30 AM   #7
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Re: New Singer / Fuller Series?

I doubt this will happen any time soon, but I am of the mind that a new series does not have to be set in the new universe to work. I guarantee you that it could be set in the prime universe and non-Trekkies would never know the difference. All they would respond to is the sensibilities of the show. You make it with with a splash of JJ's style and keep it lively and you'll get away with anything.
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Old February 4 2012, 08:57 AM   #8
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I doubt this will happen any time soon, but I am of the mind that a new series does not have to be set in the new universe to work. I guarantee you that it could be set in the prime universe and non-Trekkies would never know the difference. All they would respond to is the sensibilities of the show. You make it with with a splash of JJ's style and keep it lively and you'll get away with anything.
True or all else just jump a bit ahead in the Star Trek Universe. Just need to be far enough for most Prime characters to be dead or retired.
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Old February 4 2012, 10:11 AM   #9
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Just jump to the 2460s and put it on a new Enterprise.
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Old February 4 2012, 10:35 AM   #10
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It doesn't mean a thing if CBS isn't interested. Singer & Fuller's pitch would be just another proposal in Les Mooves' trash bin (assuming if it ever reached his desk).
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Old February 4 2012, 11:30 AM   #11
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Is there any hope for a true heir to the TNG / DS9 legacy?
How do you mean that? Because, something that is exactly like TNG/DS9 would be great to us fans, and flop after three episodes. Shows like that don't really work on tv anymore I'm afraid, because the bigger part of the audiance out there is not that into dramatic, social tv. They want simple, clean-cut entertainment. Nothing with a moral dillema like TNG/DS9 would do. It's sad, but true I'm afraid.
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Old February 4 2012, 12:24 PM   #12
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Re: New Singer / Fuller Series?

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Is there any hope for a true heir to the TNG / DS9 legacy?
How do you mean that? Because, something that is exactly like TNG/DS9 would be great to us fans, and flop after three episodes. Shows like that don't really work on tv anymore I'm afraid, because the bigger part of the audiance out there is not that into dramatic, social tv. They want simple, clean-cut entertainment. Nothing with a moral dillema like TNG/DS9 would do. It's sad, but true I'm afraid.
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Old February 4 2012, 01:16 PM   #13
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Is there any hope for a true heir to the TNG / DS9 legacy?
How do you mean that? Because, something that is exactly like TNG/DS9 would be great to us fans, and flop after three episodes. Shows like that don't really work on tv anymore I'm afraid, because the bigger part of the audiance out there is not that into dramatic, social tv. They want simple, clean-cut entertainment. Nothing with a moral dillema like TNG/DS9 would do. It's sad, but true I'm afraid.
Well DS9 in the later seasons works well in that it has actual arcs and the fluff episodes can be cut due to shorter seasons.

I would agree that it is hard to find deep shows on the major cable channels.

Although I don't like any of the ideas in that besides Vulcan/Romulan Reunification.
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Old February 4 2012, 04:45 PM   #14
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Re: New Singer / Fuller Series?

This may sound crazy, but Mad Men strikes me as something very similar to a Star Trek format. If that can succeed, a stylized, character driven Star Trek show should be able too. That's been the problem, well, was the problem with Enterprise. The cast were essentially cardboard cutouts.

Mad Men is about a group of core characters dealing with exterior problems as they arise whilst dealing with their inner demons.

Star Trek is about a group of core characters dealing with exterior problems, just without inner demons. I'm not saying the Captain should be a drunken womanizer, but...isn't that was Kirk was? Give them some flaws. It's essential. DS9 had every character flawed in some way. So did Voyager to an extent.

Well, the point I'm trying to make is if Mad Men can succeed, then a Star Trek show can. Because it's essentially the same format, except the Enterprise/DS9/Voyager is Sterling Cooper.
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Old February 4 2012, 05:20 PM   #15
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Re: New Singer / Fuller Series?

I think a Singer/Fuller Trek series could be quite interesting, and it'd be cool if they got the chance in a few years.


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I'm not really sure they'd need Abrams to "give them the keys," since any TV series would be under the control of CBS, not Paramount (who control the movies).
Unless they wanted to set their series in the Abramsverse, which would be a good idea marketing-wise. In that case, they'd need Paramount's permission to use elements created for the films. I'm not sure if the original article specifies that (since the link is down), but TrekMovie's post does:

http://trekmovie.com/2012/02/03/brya...-trek-tv-show/


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From the sounds of it, David Foster's idea which was set in the prime universe required knowledge of all the previous Star Treks and so I doubt it would be accepted.
There's also the fact that Foster is not a major producer, just some guy who has a couple of minor credits to his name. He's not in the same league as folks like Singer, Fuller, JMS, and other names attached to Trek pitches, people who actually had enough clout to get a meeting in the first place. He made noise on the Internet about how he'd like to pitch a series proposal, but he never actually made the pitch, except to the public. I figure he was trying to drum up enough grassroots interest to get CBS to take notice because he couldn't get in the door on his own.
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