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Old January 29 2012, 01:28 AM   #16
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Re: Doctor Who, first time through

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I am actually doing the same run through from the beginning right now. I know much less about the series though, so it's mostly new to me. I just finished The Aztecs last night.
What do you think of the Doctor so far? What did you think of "Unearthly Child" and "The Daleks?"
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Old January 29 2012, 05:29 AM   #17
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I agree that the Doctor is somewhat underused. There are a few too many times where he seems to be a supporting character, despite the show supposedly being about him.

I liked Unearthly Child, but the Doctor did seem like an uncaring bastard in it. The Daleks was a great story though. I like how the Daleks aren't dumb villains who can't see through their enemies moves, which is funny since their appearance makes them look like they could be mindless automatons.

Marco Polo was also a good story, it's a shame it was lost because the sets look like they were some of the most elaborate ones they had done so far, and it was a long serial too.

I'm curious to know what's going on with the TARDIS and why it's just sending them to random locations.
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Old January 29 2012, 07:42 PM   #18
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Started on The Sensorites today. Interesting scene at the start where they talk about how they have all changed since they started travelling together along with little snippets of what the doctor was up to before landing in Totters Lane.
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Old January 31 2012, 03:52 AM   #19
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Dominion,
Keep going with the Hartnells, they're very good for their time (pardon the pun). But hang on to your hat when you meet Patrick Troughton. Whatta guy! Funny, smart and completely unpredictable.

When you get to "War Games" get into your jammies, pop up some popcorn and maybe even invite a friend or two over for this one. It's roughly 5 hours of all the Who you can handle. When I used to go to a con I always spent the night in the video room watching this one.

Jon Pertwee will follow next. Be prepared to have your mind blown with politics, environmentalism, philosophy and human rights issues. And the guys from UNIT, you'll want to enlist the minute you meet the Brigadier.

I could go on all night, but you have videos to watch! Enjoy!
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Old January 31 2012, 06:53 AM   #20
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Keep going with the Hartnells, they're very good for their time (pardon the pun). But hang on to your hat when you meet Patrick Troughton. Whatta guy! Funny, smart and completely unpredictable.
Unfortunately for me, Netflix doesn't carry very many of the Troughton episodes. I'm not sure what I'm going to do at that point, but I'll think of something. A shame there are so many missing episodes from this period, too.

Jon Pertwee will follow next. Be prepared to have your mind blown with politics, environmentalism, philosophy and human rights issues. And the guys from UNIT, you'll want to enlist the minute you meet the Brigadier.
I've seen many of the Pertwee episodes. I've always liked his Doctor, even though he's so serious and not nearly so alien or eccentric as the others.

I could go on all night, but you have videos to watch! Enjoy!
"Edge of Destruction" should be in my mailbox tomorrow.
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Old January 31 2012, 04:24 PM   #21
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Dominion,
Keep going with the Hartnells, they're very good for their time (pardon the pun). But hang on to your hat when you meet Patrick Troughton. Whatta guy! Funny, smart and completely unpredictable.
Unfortunately for me, Netflix doesn't carry very many of the Troughton episodes. I'm not sure what I'm going to do at that point, but I'll think of something. A shame there are so many missing episodes from this period, too.

Jon Pertwee will follow next. Be prepared to have your mind blown with politics, environmentalism, philosophy and human rights issues. And the guys from UNIT, you'll want to enlist the minute you meet the Brigadier.
I've seen many of the Pertwee episodes. I've always liked his Doctor, even though he's so serious and not nearly so alien or eccentric as the others.

I could go on all night, but you have videos to watch! Enjoy!
"Edge of Destruction" should be in my mailbox tomorrow.
There's actually only 5 of the Troughton Stories 100% intact, and then The Invasion has 2 episodes that have been animated, so that's a total of 6 comeplete stories. The Moonbase and The Ice Warriors have only 2 episodes each missing, and there are good Fan reconstructions (Moonbase = Animated Telesnaps; Ice Warriors = 17 minutes of stills for the combined 2 missing episodes) that you should be able to watch on Youtube or Dailymotion. The rest of the troughton and Hartnell that have missing episodes, you can find Fan reconstuctions with primitive animation or Telesnaps on Dailymotion or Youtube. Plus, I believe the soundtracks for the missing stories can be purchased on Audio.
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Old January 31 2012, 04:37 PM   #22
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I watched The Sensorites and was happy to see the Doctor doing some lead stuff. I was also happy to hear them talk more about the Doctor's greater arc. I also noticed the Doctor referred to his "heart" rather than "hearts" in one scene.

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There's actually only 5 of the Troughton Stories 100% intact, and then The Invasion has 2 episodes that have been animated, so that's a total of 6 comeplete stories. The Moonbase and The Ice Warriors have only 2 episodes each missing, and there are good Fan reconstructions (Moonbase = Animated Telesnaps; Ice Warriors = 17 minutes of stills for the combined 2 missing episodes) that you should be able to watch on Youtube or Dailymotion. The rest of the troughton and Hartnell that have missing episodes, you can find Fan reconstuctions with primitive animation or Telesnaps on Dailymotion or Youtube. Plus, I believe the soundtracks for the missing stories can be purchased on Audio.
I've been curious about how the other lost episodes are handled. Marco Polo looked great because it had a ton of screenshots taken from it, but I'm guessing that not all episodes were as lucky? I'm a little apprehensive of seasons three to four because I know that a ton of episodes are missing from them.
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Old January 31 2012, 04:44 PM   #23
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I watched The Sensorites and was happy to see the Doctor doing some lead stuff. I was also happy to hear them talk more about the Doctor's greater arc. I also noticed the Doctor referred to his "heart" rather than "hearts" in one scene.

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There's actually only 5 of the Troughton Stories 100% intact, and then The Invasion has 2 episodes that have been animated, so that's a total of 6 comeplete stories. The Moonbase and The Ice Warriors have only 2 episodes each missing, and there are good Fan reconstructions (Moonbase = Animated Telesnaps; Ice Warriors = 17 minutes of stills for the combined 2 missing episodes) that you should be able to watch on Youtube or Dailymotion. The rest of the troughton and Hartnell that have missing episodes, you can find Fan reconstuctions with primitive animation or Telesnaps on Dailymotion or Youtube. Plus, I believe the soundtracks for the missing stories can be purchased on Audio.
I've been curious about how the other lost episodes are handled. Marco Polo looked great because it had a ton of screenshots taken from it, but I'm guessing that not all episodes were as lucky? I'm a little apprehensive of seasons three to four because I know that a ton of episodes are missing from them.
Marco Polo Fan reconstruction was treated to color Telesnaps, and a very clear picture and nice soundtrack. The rest of the reconstructions, are all black and white telesnaps (Or as I said, you can find some primitive "stick figure" quality animation if you prefer), some of them, the video quality is not necessarily the best and the audio is not always the best, but, they're out there. Just google videos for Youtube or other similar streaming sites with the name of the overall Story and you'll find them (And of course, the Lost in Time Box set(s) contain the existing episodes that are not complete stories yet)
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Old January 31 2012, 04:59 PM   #24
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I actually have all the episodes on a hard drive, I just haven't put them on my computer yet.
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Old January 31 2012, 08:00 PM   #25
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Concerning the perceived "underuse" of the Doctor in the earliest serials...

From what I've read the Doctor was to serve more as a catalyst for getting Ian, Barbara and Susan entrenched within each new adventure. At least, that was some of the notations Sydney Newman and Verity Lambert passed back and forth to each other when developing the series. He'd get the "comapnions" to their destination and then do something that would, in event, get them into trouble. Looking at it that way, the Doctor sounds almost like, well, a Dr. Smith type character! Certainly the first two stories followed that format.

Additional themes discussed were calling upon the knowledge of the two teachers. If the story was to be "futuristic", then Ian's skills as a science teacher would help them resolve the crisis. If they traveled to the past, Barbera's knowledge of history would eventually get them out of a jam. Newman envisioned "Doctor Who" to be something akin to (what we call today as) an edu-tainment show. He did NOT want it to be a series about "bug-eyed" monsters.

However, because the "treatment" he wanted to follow the prehistory adventure did not pan out (for reasons I can't remember), a story about nuclear war survivors was pushed to the fore. Sydney Newman was supposedly upset about having this story appear so soon , seemingly defying his mandate about "mosnters", but the production had little recourse. When Newman saw the ratings for "The Daleks", even he couldn't refute its success and resigned himself to the fact this series was going to take a far science fantasy slant.

And the rest, as they say, is history.

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Old February 1 2012, 01:04 AM   #26
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I agree that the Doctor is somewhat underused. There are a few too many times where he seems to be a supporting character, despite the show supposedly being about him.
Ah, but it's NOT about him. Yes, it's called Doctor Who, but The Maltese Falcon isn't actually about the statue. it's about what happens because of it. :-)
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Old February 1 2012, 01:25 AM   #27
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I've been curious about how the other lost episodes are handled. Marco Polo looked great because it had a ton of screenshots taken from it, but I'm guessing that not all episodes were as lucky? I'm a little apprehensive of seasons three to four because I know that a ton of episodes are missing from them.
Actually, of the 27 missing stories, 16 of them have a complete set of off-air tele-snaps (both Marco Polo and The Enemy of the World are missing the snaps from their fourth episodes, but are otherwise complete). Of the 10 stories without tele-snaps, 6 of them are from Season 3 (likely because the producer at the time made the decision not to use the services of the guy who took them).
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Old February 1 2012, 01:39 AM   #28
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I am actually doing the same run through from the beginning right now. I know much less about the series though, so it's mostly new to me. I just finished The Aztecs last night.
Add another one to the list. Got done with "The Daleks" last night, will be knocking out "Edge Of Destruction" tonight.

I've come to enjoy "An Unearthly Child" more upon each viewing....yet Dalek episodes still to tend to grate on me. I do prefer the smarter Daleks of earlier days, but still not a fan of them.
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Old February 1 2012, 11:38 PM   #29
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There's actually only 5 of the Troughton Stories 100% intact--
That sucks lemons.

That would explain why Netflix only has 5 of his episodes.

and then The Invasion has 2 episodes that have been animated, so that's a total of 6 comeplete stories. The Moonbase and The Ice Warriors have only 2 episodes each missing, and there are good Fan reconstructions (Moonbase = Animated Telesnaps; Ice Warriors = 17 minutes of stills for the combined 2 missing episodes) that you should be able to watch on Youtube or Dailymotion. The rest of the troughton and Hartnell that have missing episodes, you can find Fan reconstuctions with primitive animation or Telesnaps on Dailymotion or Youtube. Plus, I believe the soundtracks for the missing stories can be purchased on Audio.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't all the missing episodes still exist in audio if in no other form?

Just got "Edge" in the mail. I'll be watching it tonight.
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Old February 2 2012, 12:06 AM   #30
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Yes, all the missing episodes have their audio intact, hence the ability for the Reconstuctions to be done with Telesnaps. Though the Ice Warriors is missing two episodes back to back, and their reconstruction is only 17 minutes long, so, perhaps this one story is missing a bit of audio (Or maybe there's long gaps of silence or something).

Some of the telesnap Reconstructions are so good, you almost don't notice you're not watching moving video
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