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Old January 15 2012, 03:23 AM   #31
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Re: Star Trek Vanguard- to read or not to read?

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Thanks for all the advice guys. I'll definitely give it a shot.
Awesome. You will NOT regret it.
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Old January 15 2012, 03:26 AM   #32
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FYI to the OP Book 3 may be hard to get, since for some strange reason its out of print except for an over priced trade paperback.
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Old January 15 2012, 03:38 AM   #33
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Re: Star Trek Vanguard- to read or not to read?

I read the first & didn't read any of the others for a while. Finally got back into them & love the series now. Doesn't remind me of Star Wars at all.
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Old January 15 2012, 05:49 AM   #34
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BTW Killandra, I don't recall if it was mentioned yet, but the SCE novella Distant Early Warning ties into the greater Vanguard story as well, while not requiring much knowledge of the SCE backstory. So that should be on your reading list, too .
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Old January 15 2012, 06:01 AM   #35
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FYI to the OP Book 3 may be hard to get, since for some strange reason its out of print except for an over priced trade paperback.
Order now and you can grab the last discounted copy for just $11.20 and have it in a larger size, which makes the cover art even more awesome.
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Old January 15 2012, 06:17 AM   #36
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BTW Killandra, I don't recall if it was mentioned yet, but the SCE novella Distant Early Warning ties into the greater Vanguard story as well, while not requiring much knowledge of the SCE backstory. So that should be on your reading list, too .
The Typhon Pact/TNG novel Paths of Disharmony also ties in with Vanguard as well, and, as I already noted, one of the main chatacters, T'pryn, is mentioned in The DS9 Relaunch novel Mission Gamma: Lesser Evil. She is also featured in the Lost Era novel The Art of the Impossible.
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Old January 15 2012, 06:25 AM   #37
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as I already noted
Not in this thread I think .

Good recap though. Typhoon Pact, one day I'll catch up to you ...
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Old January 15 2012, 08:20 AM   #38
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as I already noted
Not in this thread I think .

Good recap though. Typhoon Pact, one day I'll catch up to you ...
You're right. I hadn't noted that T'prynn is mentioned in the DS9-R in this thread. I just thought that I had. Oops.
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Old January 15 2012, 10:56 AM   #39
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Vanguard made me appreciate the "TOS-Era" as something more viable and worthwhile, not just a holdover from the stylings of the 60's, before the Movie-Era came in and made me love the original series characters.

I grew up on TNG & Matured on DS9, so the movies were always kind of like watching the result of a past I was never that familiar with. To this day I've yet to see most of Star Trek: The Original Series and I'd never really had a desire to, but then Vanguard came along and made me want to.

If Trek ever comes back to Television, it should use this series as the template.

It's just that fucking good.

I agree with Technobuilder. I never really cared much for TOS novels, and haven't seen all TOS episodes. But Vangaurd finally made the 23rd century bigger then just the Enterprise, and showed that it was a huge galaxy where so much more was going on. Looking back at TOS now, I appreciate it so much more as a whole, not just the episodes that had a social message and a great story.

As for Vangaurd itself, it's just to damn well written, with characters that go somewhere, evolve and change. Yes, there is a darkness, there is struggle. But it works. In essence, it's exactly what Trek is; the struggle of individuals trying to create a better, safer universe. For some characters, their actions are dubious at best, but they are ok with that. They are willing to be less then they could be, to achive a greater goal for others. T'Prynn being a great example, with some of her actions being quite dubious, but always to ensure the safety and wellbeing of others, by choosing the lesser of two evils. Same can be said for Reyes.
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Old January 15 2012, 11:01 AM   #40
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Re: Star Trek Vanguard- to read or not to read?

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BTW Killandra, I don't recall if it was mentioned yet, but the SCE novella Distant Early Warning ties into the greater Vanguard story as well, while not requiring much knowledge of the SCE backstory. So that should be on your reading list, too .
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Old January 15 2012, 11:02 AM   #41
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I'll definitely give it a shot.
Awesome. You will NOT regret it.
I hope not, lol. But I love all Trek (some more than others) so I'm sure I'll enjoy it. I am pretty easy to please overall.
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Old January 15 2012, 11:07 AM   #42
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Re: Star Trek Vanguard- to read or not to read?

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Vanguard made me appreciate the "TOS-Era" as something more viable and worthwhile, not just a holdover from the stylings of the 60's, before the Movie-Era came in and made me love the original series characters.

I grew up on TNG & Matured on DS9, so the movies were always kind of like watching the result of a past I was never that familiar with. To this day I've yet to see most of Star Trek: The Original Series and I'd never really had a desire to, but then Vanguard came along and made me want to.

If Trek ever comes back to Television, it should use this series as the template.

It's just that fucking good.

I agree with Technobuilder. I never really cared much for TOS novels, and haven't seen all TOS episodes. But Vangaurd finally made the 23rd century bigger then just the Enterprise, and showed that it was a huge galaxy where so much more was going on. Looking back at TOS now, I appreciate it so much more as a whole, not just the episodes that had a social message and a great story.

As for Vangaurd itself, it's just to damn well written, with characters that go somewhere, evolve and change. Yes, there is a darkness, there is struggle. But it works. In essence, it's exactly what Trek is; the struggle of individuals trying to create a better, safer universe. For some characters, their actions are dubious at best, but they are ok with that. They are willing to be less then they could be, to achive a greater goal for others. T'Prynn being a great example, with some of her actions being quite dubious, but always to ensure the safety and wellbeing of others, by choosing the lesser of two evils. Same can be said for Reyes.
Awesome! I can't wait! I can appreciate some dubious action, it keeps the character flawed and more three dimensional. I don't think any of us want to read the adventures of Captain Perfect and the the crew of the USS Do No Wrong, where would the fun be in that?
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Old January 15 2012, 01:14 PM   #43
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Re: Star Trek Vanguard- to read or not to read?

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BTW Killandra, I don't recall if it was mentioned yet, but the SCE novella Distant Early Warning ties into the greater Vanguard story as well, while not requiring much knowledge of the SCE backstory. So that should be on your reading list, too .
Thanks! My bday is coming up so I know what to ask for.
I think you've an eReader, so this may be a moot point, but: In print Distant Early Warning is part of the What's Past Trade Paperback.
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Old January 15 2012, 06:54 PM   #44
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BTW Killandra, I don't recall if it was mentioned yet, but the SCE novella Distant Early Warning ties into the greater Vanguard story as well, while not requiring much knowledge of the SCE backstory. So that should be on your reading list, too .
The Typhon Pact/TNG novel Paths of Disharmony also ties in with Vanguard as well, and, as I already noted, one of the main chatacters, T'pryn, is mentioned in The DS9 Relaunch novel Mission Gamma: Lesser Evil. She is also featured in the Lost Era novel The Art of the Impossible.
I thought she played an active role in a series of flashbacks?
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Old January 17 2012, 10:29 AM   #45
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BTW Killandra, I don't recall if it was mentioned yet, but the SCE novella Distant Early Warning ties into the greater Vanguard story as well, while not requiring much knowledge of the SCE backstory. So that should be on your reading list, too .
Thanks! My bday is coming up so I know what to ask for.
I think you've an eReader, so this may be a moot point, but: In print Distant Early Warning is part of the What's Past Trade Paperback.
Im primarily an ereader, but I cannot help my love for the look, feel, and smell of a printed book every now and again...
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