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Old January 13 2012, 07:59 AM   #1
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Anyone know why Elite Force 2 is expensive and rare?

Hi all,

Saw the thread about the free download of Elite Force 1 and was pleased wanted the elite force games for some time now as i've never tried Trek video games(other than star trek online) and i wanted to start getting into the games that were classics when activision had the license back in the day so I read. Im a huge video gamer(Wii PC) combined with my love of video games should be awsome. I wanted to compliment 1 with elite force 2 but unfortunately I hit a hurdle with obtaining it.

However anyone know what is up with elite force 2 and why it cannot be found easily? i checked ebay and amazon and a disc of it is 40 bucks with elite force 1 being around 15 which isn't bad considering its not made anymore however no need on 1 since I got the download. Also checked steam and thats unfortunately a no go which is wierd as big as those classic trek games are you'd think steam would want to sell them.

If anyone has ideas on how to legally obtain elite force 2 without breaking the bank on it for a used disc please share.
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Old January 13 2012, 08:38 AM   #2
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Re: Anyone know why Elite Force 2 is expensive and rare?

Free download of Elite Force 1? Where?
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Old January 13 2012, 09:19 PM   #3
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Re: Anyone know why Elite Force 2 is expensive and rare?

I gotta remember to check out what I've got for old discs. Know discs like this, the Armada discs, etc are selling for a ton, and I've got them collecting dust for the most part. Always forget to follow up and try and find/ebay them...
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Old January 14 2012, 03:06 PM   #4
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Re: Anyone know why Elite Force 2 is expensive and rare?

Elite force 2 and Starfleet command 3 both fell at the starting gates when Activision sued Viacom in 2003 for not exploiting the Trek franchise.......so although copies of both games made it into retailers hands once the law suit started all prodction of Trek games was stopped while the law suit continued........and it took until 2005 for it to be settled, but by then the whole Trek franchise was on life support.
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Old January 15 2012, 06:45 AM   #5
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Haggis and tatties wrote: View Post
Elite force 2 and Starfleet command 3 both fell at the starting gates when Activision sued Viacom in 2003 for not exploiting the Trek franchise.......so although copies of both games made it into retailers hands once the law suit started all prodction of Trek games was stopped while the law suit continued........and it took until 2005 for it to be settled, but by then the whole Trek franchise was on life support.
Wait what was the specifics of this suit? I read that activisions license to Star Trek was terminated back then by had no idea why which is a huge shame as activision had really carried the license and made the best Star Trek games today outside of those they have been weak to mediocre, something has to be said that the first real solid Star Trek game since the activision ones is Star Trek Online in my opinion lol.

Also outside of elite force 2 i am finding that many of the old games like Armada, Starfleet Command, etc are also very expensive and rare and its a shame really because I want to try the old acitvision trek games because they were so good and never had the chance.

Free download of Elite Force 1 isn't working for me so likely I will buy the disc, thats the only one out of that batch that is cheap and reasonable.
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Old January 15 2012, 11:09 AM   #6
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Re: Anyone know why Elite Force 2 is expensive and rare?

Rather ironic really when Activision turned out some pretty miserable Trek games.
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Old January 15 2012, 09:33 PM   #7
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Re: Anyone know why Elite Force 2 is expensive and rare?

Lange wrote: View Post
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Elite force 2 and Starfleet command 3 both fell at the starting gates when Activision sued Viacom in 2003 for not exploiting the Trek franchise.......so although copies of both games made it into retailers hands once the law suit started all prodction of Trek games was stopped while the law suit continued........and it took until 2005 for it to be settled, but by then the whole Trek franchise was on life support.
Wait what was the specifics of this suit? I read that activisions license to Star Trek was terminated back then by had no idea why which is a huge shame as activision had really carried the license and made the best Star Trek games today outside of those they have been weak to mediocre, something has to be said that the first real solid Star Trek game since the activision ones is Star Trek Online in my opinion lol.

Also outside of elite force 2 i am finding that many of the old games like Armada, Starfleet Command, etc are also very expensive and rare and its a shame really because I want to try the old acitvision trek games because they were so good and never had the chance.

Free download of Elite Force 1 isn't working for me so likely I will buy the disc, thats the only one out of that batch that is cheap and reasonable.
Basically Activision sued Viacom for letting the Trek franchise go down the toilet pan, and becuase thay had done this the gaming rights licence Activision had paid for was dead in the water.........according to Activision.
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Old January 16 2012, 03:55 AM   #8
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Haggis and tatties wrote: View Post
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Haggis and tatties wrote: View Post
Elite force 2 and Starfleet command 3 both fell at the starting gates when Activision sued Viacom in 2003 for not exploiting the Trek franchise.......so although copies of both games made it into retailers hands once the law suit started all prodction of Trek games was stopped while the law suit continued........and it took until 2005 for it to be settled, but by then the whole Trek franchise was on life support.
Wait what was the specifics of this suit? I read that activisions license to Star Trek was terminated back then by had no idea why which is a huge shame as activision had really carried the license and made the best Star Trek games today outside of those they have been weak to mediocre, something has to be said that the first real solid Star Trek game since the activision ones is Star Trek Online in my opinion lol.

Also outside of elite force 2 i am finding that many of the old games like Armada, Starfleet Command, etc are also very expensive and rare and its a shame really because I want to try the old acitvision trek games because they were so good and never had the chance.

Free download of Elite Force 1 isn't working for me so likely I will buy the disc, thats the only one out of that batch that is cheap and reasonable.
Basically Activision sued Viacom for letting the Trek franchise go down the toilet pan, and becuase thay had done this the gaming rights licence Activision had paid for was dead in the water.........according to Activision.
It's kind of hard to argue with them.
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Old February 9 2012, 06:01 AM   #9
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Re: Anyone know why Elite Force 2 is expensive and rare?

Ah yes, the lawsuit that ruined Trek gaming.

Bad times.
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Old February 10 2012, 01:30 AM   #10
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^^and the Interplay Fiasco just prior....
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Old February 10 2012, 01:32 AM   #11
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Rather ironic really when Activision turned out some pretty miserable Trek games.
They were good when they were modded!
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Old February 10 2012, 01:57 AM   #12
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Woah Woah woah. So your telling me all those old activision games are worth something? The box next to my leg which has boxed copies of Elite Force, Elite Force Expansion, Elite Force 2, Armada, Armada 2, Starfleet Command 1 and 3 and Bridge Commander is worth more than my boxed ST Micro Machines Collectors Set 3?!
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Old February 10 2012, 04:05 PM   #13
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Re: Anyone know why Elite Force 2 is expensive and rare?

Stop there.

If you have an original copy of ST Armada 2, BEFORE e-baying it, go to www.fleetops.net and do a test run of that mod for STA2.

You may decide never to part with your original copy.

There is a thriving PvP community that play networked games on the tunngle VPN.
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Old February 10 2012, 08:24 PM   #14
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Stop there.

If you have an original copy of ST Armada 2, BEFORE e-baying it, go to www.fleetops.net and do a test run of that mod for STA2.

You may decide never to part with your original copy.

There is a thriving PvP community that play networked games on the tunngle VPN.
^The only justification for why I still keep the A2 disk, and for A2s existence at all.
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Old February 10 2012, 08:40 PM   #15
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Woah Woah woah. So your telling me all those old activision games are worth something?
Boot up Elite Force/Elite Force Expansion and take a stroll back in time...to Starbase 11 & the USS Star League.


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