Green Arrow (CW)

[theenglish]

DarKush wrote:

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From what little I've heard about that, the powerless Wonder Woman wasn't well received. I know that Cathy Lee Crosby played that kind of Wonder Woman in a TV pilot, but it was the more traditional Lynda Carter Wonder Woman show that got produced.

I don't see how that powerless Wonder Woman would be much different than Nikita. Also, with Arrow taking a lot of the 'realistic' villains out there, by the time Wonder Woman got a show, a lot of them already would be used, or misused, by Arrow.

There's a lot of superpowered villains just sitting around, not being used at all. And there are bigger storylines that a superpowered Wonder Woman can do as opposed to a powerless one.

I am just pointing out that there is already a comic book precedent for a Wonder Woman without super powers.

[JD]

Manu Bennett (Spartacus' Crixus) has been cast as an unmasked Slade Wilson aka Deathstroke. Here's what CBR has to say:

According to EW, Wilson will be depicted again in flashbacks as he and Oliver Queen (star Stephen Amell) "form an uneasy alliance" on the North China Sea island whether the latter was shipwrecked for five years. Considering that when Deathstroke was last seen he was torturing Oliver, "uneasy" is probably an understatement.

[Guy Gardener]

I thought that we decided that was a Checkmate Bishop because his mask was iridescent yellow and not orange?

[DarKush]

theenglish wrote:

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I am just pointing out that there is already a comic book precedent for a Wonder Woman without super powers.

That's cool. I knew a little about that part of the Wonder Woman's history as well as the TV pilot. There is precedent, but at the same time history also shows that that approach wasn't well liked. That's not to say that a new take on that idea can't be successful. I just hope that the show doesn't go that route. Making Wonder Woman ordinary makes her less interesting. CW's already got one driven vigilante in Arrow and one kick ass female assassin in Nikita. That realistic approach for Wonder Woman just doesn't seem that imaginative.

[theenglish]

DarKush wrote:

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That's cool. I knew a little about that part of the Wonder Woman's history as well as the TV pilot. There is precedent, but at the same time history also shows that that approach wasn't well liked. That's not to say that a new take on that idea can't be successful. I just hope that the show doesn't go that route. Making Wonder Woman ordinary makes her less interesting. CW's already got one driven vigilante in Arrow and one kick ass female assassin in Nikita. That realistic approach for Wonder Woman just doesn't seem that imaginative.

I agree with you. I kind of feel that this no powers rule will become as restrictive and as frustrating as the no flights/no tights rule from Smallville. I hope they reconsider.

[JD]

I agree. I just don't see WW being that interesting without superpowers.

[Guy Gardener]

Powers are one thing, it's about origins. In the failed pilot, they were hinting that she was perhaps some sort of roided up science experiment, maybe not, but definitely not human.

If you don't have ancient gods awarding her powers, all you got is Buffy.

[theenglish]

Guy Gardener wrote:

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Powers are one thing, it's about origins. In the failed pilot, they were hinting that she was perhaps some sort of roided up science experiment, maybe not, but definitely not human.

If you don't have ancient gods awarding her powers, all you got is Buffy.

But Buffy does get her powers from ancients gods, well demons.

[Guy Gardener]

Old Wizards.

I really felt let down that she didn't try drinking Vampire blood more after that outting with Dracula.

It totally supercharged her.

Hard to believe that we watched 7 years of Popeye without his spinach.

[theenglish]

Guy Gardener wrote:

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Old Wizards.

I really felt let down that she didn't try drinking Vampire blood more after that outting with Dracula.

It totally supercharged her.

Hard to believe that we watched 7 years of Popeye without his spinach.

Hey, I bet we get Guy Gardner, ex-cop on Arrow before too long.

[Guy Gardener]

I prefer that guy as a PE teacher, but then I think of Jordan most fondly as a door to door (children's) toy salesman.

[sojourner]

JD wrote:

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I agree. I just don't see WW being that interesting without superpowers.

That was in reference to Arrow, not WW.

[JD]

Oh, my mistake. I do wish they'd incorporate superpowers into Arrow though. I've been really enjoying it so far, but I think it would open up a lot of interesting possibilities if Ollie suddenly had to deal with superhuman heroes and villains popping up.

[sojourner]

They may save that for mid life of the show. If it lasts more than 3 seasons.

[Guy Gardener]

There used to be a comic called Stormwatch and the principle was that soliderboys with the right training and the right (real world, real) weapons could take out any cape because they were a bunch of yahoos winging it.

It's nice when the good guy has to outthink a more powerful adversary.