Green Arrow (CW) - Page 15

Silvercrest · October 4 2012, 05:25 PM

Right, but he'd been a Bat-villain for thirty years before then, so I was wondering if that was ever taken into account anymore. I didn't know about the Smallville appearance. Guess I have my answer.

Captain Craig · October 4 2012, 06:06 PM

Deadshot is about the only villain from the Bat ranks to editorial be essentially removed as a member of Batman's Rogues. His Suicide Squad days essentially rewrote the book on the character to the point where if you picked up reading comics anytime from about mid-80's forward you likely just considered Deadshot his own thing as team leader of Suicide Squad. I did. It wasn't till the 90's I found out he was created in the Bat books.

As for the picture of him I must say that just the eyepiece itself looks extremely bulky. Perhaps that is step one as a costume and other accessories come along.

Silvercrest · October 4 2012, 08:58 PM

I'd say this is probably true from about 1990 on, rather than the mid-80s. During the late 80s, the Squad book featured quite a few references to his history with Batman, as well as a couple more Bat-encounters during crossovers. At one point, however, Batman basically called Deadshot on the fact that the latter had plenty of chances to kill Bats and never did, and to stop wasting both their time.

After that, I'm not sure the two ever traded blows (or shots) again, even though Batman made several more appearances. I would say that if there was a point at which Deadshot stopped being a Bat-villain, that was it. I doubt there was an official policy change; more like the writers and editors simply followed suit.

And that eyepiece looked bulky even when he had the full costume. You don't need to be a dead shot when you're wearing that contraption; they could put Mr. Magoo in the suit and get results.

Captain Craig · October 4 2012, 09:29 PM

I just couldn't nail down an exact time frame. I was guessing mid-80's but my point was it's been quite some time.

Silvercrest · October 4 2012, 09:55 PM

No problem, I'm just breaking it down a little more exactly.

Anyone know if Bats and Deadshot have ever fought in the comics since then? The last time I know of was during Suicide Squad's "Phoenix Gambit" in 1990. But then he wasn't even going after Batman, he was going after someone else and Bats was trying to stop him.

There was a memorable instance in the animated Justice League where Bats convinced Deadshot to give up by whispering one little phrase. We couldn't hear what it was. Only Superman could. He was impressed/appalled. I've been trying to figure out what that phrase was ever since. Something that's only a few words long and sufficient to cow someone as jaded as Deadshot.

My best guess is Bats whispered "broken trigger finger".

Guy Gardener · October 4 2012, 10:49 PM

The Squad went to Gotham in the new 52 after Harley went awol after finding out that Batman had killed the joker and she needed some payback. All she ended up doing was carving some meat that remained from his burnt up corpse and wearing it for a face for a few pages as she "talked" to him.

New 52 Batman dosn't know about the squad.

Old DCU does.

Does old DCU Batman beleive in rehabilitation more that than convict exploitation?

But then, compared to the OMACs... The Suicide Squad is fucking genius.

Silvercrest · October 4 2012, 11:02 PM

Heh... old DCU Batman wasn't concerned about convict exploitation. He was just concerned about letting convicts out of jail (regardless of their services) after his time and trouble in putting them away.

Topic? Green Arrow? Who's that?

Uh... Speedy once teamed up with the Suicide Squad back in the 1980s. Yeah, that's it.

Guy Gardener · October 4 2012, 11:29 PM

I saw a Batman recently where Adam west was talking at Catwoman's parole hearing.

Silvercrest · October 4 2012, 11:44 PM

That's different. He's got a vested interest in that pussy...cat.

Come to think of it, was he arguing to keep her in, or let her out?

JD · October 5 2012, 01:31 AM

sojourner wrote:

We have? Got a link?

Sorry about that. I could sworn I put the link up.

Nerys Myk · October 5 2012, 01:57 AM

I was hoping they'd use the tuxedo costume for Deadshot.

JD · October 6 2012, 06:24 AM

Katie Cassidy talked about her character and Black Canary in a recent interview. Blastr story. It doesn't sound like she'll be taking on the identity any time soon, but she doesn't rule it out completely.

Enterprise is Great · October 8 2012, 09:53 PM

First Look: Arrow Digital Comic Book and http://www.tvguide.com/news/arrow-di...k-1054338.aspx

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Dream · October 11 2012, 01:55 AM

The first episode just finished airing.

Still no comments from people here yet?

Icemizer · October 11 2012, 02:27 AM

Well I thought it was pretty solid for a premiere episode. Didnt like that he let people see his face so well. The green paint doesnt really cover anything up. But all in all fairly decent and much better than the first Smallville. Of course Luthor mansion was there and still looks good.

October 4 2012, 05:25 PM	#211
Silvercrest Rear Admiral Location: Lost in Moria (Arlington, WA, USA)	Re: Green Arrow (CW) Right, but he'd been a Bat-villain for thirty years before then, so I was wondering if that was ever taken into account anymore. I didn't know about the Smallville appearance. Guess I have my answer.

October 4 2012, 06:06 PM	#212
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Green Arrow (CW) Deadshot is about the only villain from the Bat ranks to editorial be essentially removed as a member of Batman's Rogues. His Suicide Squad days essentially rewrote the book on the character to the point where if you picked up reading comics anytime from about mid-80's forward you likely just considered Deadshot his own thing as team leader of Suicide Squad. I did. It wasn't till the 90's I found out he was created in the Bat books. As for the picture of him I must say that just the eyepiece itself looks extremely bulky. Perhaps that is step one as a costume and other accessories come along. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

October 4 2012, 08:58 PM	#213
Silvercrest Rear Admiral Location: Lost in Moria (Arlington, WA, USA)	Re: Green Arrow (CW) I'd say this is probably true from about 1990 on, rather than the mid-80s. During the late 80s, the Squad book featured quite a few references to his history with Batman, as well as a couple more Bat-encounters during crossovers. At one point, however, Batman basically called Deadshot on the fact that the latter had plenty of chances to kill Bats and never did, and to stop wasting both their time. After that, I'm not sure the two ever traded blows (or shots) again, even though Batman made several more appearances. I would say that if there was a point at which Deadshot stopped being a Bat-villain, that was it. I doubt there was an official policy change; more like the writers and editors simply followed suit. And that eyepiece looked bulky even when he had the full costume. You don't need to be a dead shot when you're wearing that contraption; they could put Mr. Magoo in the suit and get results.

October 4 2012, 09:29 PM	#214
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Green Arrow (CW) I just couldn't nail down an exact time frame. I was guessing mid-80's but my point was it's been quite some time. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

October 4 2012, 09:55 PM	#215
Silvercrest Rear Admiral Location: Lost in Moria (Arlington, WA, USA)	Re: Green Arrow (CW) No problem, I'm just breaking it down a little more exactly. Anyone know if Bats and Deadshot have ever fought in the comics since then? The last time I know of was during Suicide Squad's "Phoenix Gambit" in 1990. But then he wasn't even going after Batman, he was going after someone else and Bats was trying to stop him. There was a memorable instance in the animated Justice League where Bats convinced Deadshot to give up by whispering one little phrase. We couldn't hear what it was. Only Superman could. He was impressed/appalled. I've been trying to figure out what that phrase was ever since. Something that's only a few words long and sufficient to cow someone as jaded as Deadshot. My best guess is Bats whispered "broken trigger finger".

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October 4 2012, 10:49 PM	#216
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Green Arrow (CW) The Squad went to Gotham in the new 52 after Harley went awol after finding out that Batman had killed the joker and she needed some payback. All she ended up doing was carving some meat that remained from his burnt up corpse and wearing it for a face for a few pages as she "talked" to him. New 52 Batman dosn't know about the squad. Old DCU does. Does old DCU Batman beleive in rehabilitation more that than convict exploitation? But then, compared to the OMACs... The Suicide Squad is fucking genius. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

October 4 2012, 11:02 PM	#217
Silvercrest Rear Admiral Location: Lost in Moria (Arlington, WA, USA)	Re: Green Arrow (CW) Heh... old DCU Batman wasn't concerned about convict exploitation. He was just concerned about letting convicts out of jail (regardless of their services) after his time and trouble in putting them away. Topic? Green Arrow? Who's that? Uh... Speedy once teamed up with the Suicide Squad back in the 1980s. Yeah, that's it.

October 4 2012, 11:29 PM	#218
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Green Arrow (CW) I saw a Batman recently where Adam west was talking at Catwoman's parole hearing. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

October 4 2012, 11:44 PM	#219
Silvercrest Rear Admiral Location: Lost in Moria (Arlington, WA, USA)	Re: Green Arrow (CW) That's different. He's got a vested interest in that pussy...cat. Come to think of it, was he arguing to keep her in, or let her out?

October 5 2012, 01:57 AM	#221
Nerys Myk Admiral Location: House of Kang, now with ridges	Re: Green Arrow (CW) I was hoping they'd use the tuxedo costume for Deadshot. __________________ Nerys Myk's Midnight In Never Land A novel of Dark Fantasy @ Amazon.com

October 6 2012, 06:24 AM	#222
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: Green Arrow (CW) Katie Cassidy talked about her character and Black Canary in a recent interview. Blastr story. It doesn't sound like she'll be taking on the identity any time soon, but she doesn't rule it out completely. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

October 8 2012, 09:53 PM	#223
Enterprise is Great Rear Admiral	Re: Green Arrow (CW) First Look: Arrow Digital Comic Book and http://www.tvguide.com/news/arrow-di...k-1054338.aspx Arrow Scoop: Currie Graham Leads Royal Flush Gang __________________ JJverse Star Trek...is gonna rock again! On May 17, 2013!

October 11 2012, 01:55 AM	#224
Dream Admiral	Re: Green Arrow (CW) The first episode just finished airing. Still no comments from people here yet? __________________ TWoP Forums .

October 11 2012, 02:27 AM	#225
Icemizer Fleet Captain	Re: Green Arrow (CW) Well I thought it was pretty solid for a premiere episode. Didnt like that he let people see his face so well. The green paint doesnt really cover anything up. But all in all fairly decent and much better than the first Smallville. Of course Luthor mansion was there and still looks good.