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Old January 7 2012, 01:22 AM   #16
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Re: Once Nolan's trilogy ends..

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it until it happens...Robin can be done right if you take the right source material and apply it. The greatest Robin origin story I've ever read is Dark Victory. This is my favourite piece of work from Jeph Loeb. Tell me this story handled right wouldn't work in a live action piece. Broccoli hit it on the nail why "Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin" didn't work. They changed Bruce and Dick's entire dynamic and aged Dick. While "Kick-Ass" was over the top and meant to be so...treated with that level of maturity and sophistication, there is absolutely no reason why Robin can't work in a live action Batman movie. I'm sorry for ranting about this all the time but it is a particular subject I'm really passionate about. As Tim Drake so rightly concluded so many years ago Batman will always need a Robin!
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Old January 7 2012, 03:29 AM   #17
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Wonder if it'd be too much t0 ask if the Darknight Detective did some detective work?
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Old January 7 2012, 03:39 AM   #18
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Yeah, this is one element that has been missing from the trilogy.
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Old January 7 2012, 04:39 AM   #19
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A hyper stylized Robert Rodriquez Batman film that combines elements of "Sin City" with tarantino's Crazy 88 sequence from kill Bill..with a twangy surf rock soundtrack. But no camp.
Coincidentally, they're running Desperado on AMC right now
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Old January 7 2012, 05:55 AM   #20
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A hyper stylized Robert Rodriquez Batman film that combines elements of "Sin City" with tarantino's Crazy 88 sequence from kill Bill..with a twangy surf rock soundtrack. But no camp.

So, then "camp".
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Old January 7 2012, 06:02 AM   #21
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Admiral_Young wrote: View Post
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it until it happens...Robin can be done right if you take the right source material and apply it. The greatest Robin origin story I've ever read is Dark Victory. This is my favourite piece of work from Jeph Loeb. Tell me this story handled right wouldn't work in a live action piece.
Robin is still a 13 year-old that Batman is bringing out to fight crime with. It was a good story, but a live-action version of that is going to be hard to buy for mainstream audiences.

Broccoli hit it on the nail why "Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin" didn't work. They changed Bruce and Dick's entire dynamic and aged Dick.
Actually, I said the opposite. I think it worked because they aged him and changed the dynamic.
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Old January 7 2012, 06:18 AM   #22
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^ Oh oops...bad job on me for not reading correctly. I still disagree though. I realize that audiences would probably have a hard time rationalizing a 13 year old side kick but then maybe the compromise is having him 14 or 15. I really truly believe it would work handled by someone who can appreciate the character and the material. *Shrugs*. This reminds me of that old Robin thread that was around a few years ago. This is when this topic was first brought up I think. Probably sometime in between "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight".
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Old January 7 2012, 06:19 AM   #23
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I've heard tell that Warner, once Nolan's Dark Knight saga is concluded, will restart the character in a TV show (live action).

They aren't going to do a live action Bat film for awhile. Allow some time between the end of Nolan's saga and the start of whatever cinematic version begins.
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Old January 7 2012, 06:22 AM   #24
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I've not heard any rumours about a live action television series...if they did have one, they'd have to finally lift the Bat-Embargo.
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Old January 7 2012, 06:32 AM   #25
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It was mentioned on the Kevin Smith/Ralph Garmin podcast, Hollywood Babble-on, during their "Geek News" segment.
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Old January 7 2012, 06:43 AM   #26
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^ Oh oops...bad job on me for not reading correctly. I still disagree though. I realize that audiences would probably have a hard time rationalizing a 13 year old side kick but then maybe the compromise is having him 14 or 15. I really truly believe it would work handled by someone who can appreciate the character and the material. *Shrugs*. This reminds me of that old Robin thread that was around a few years ago. This is when this topic was first brought up I think. Probably sometime in between "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight".
It would be tough to pull off successfully. Maybe if they had Robin already active and being an older teen to begin with (kinda how they did in B:TAS), people could buy it a little better.

Again, I really liked the idea they went with in Forever/B&R. While it is not the only approach, I think that was the right one at that time to take for a tricky character like that. Now, if the storyline (B&R in particular) serviced the character better...

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I've not heard any rumours about a live action television series...if they did have one, they'd have to finally lift the Bat-Embargo.
I remember hearing something like that 2 or 3 years ago. It is probably bunk as WB is likely concentrating on TDKR more than anything else. If there is an idea for a show, I bet it is in the back of their minds at the moment.
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Old January 7 2012, 06:45 AM   #27
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I will say that I would love to see a solo "Nightwing" movie with maybe a flash back to his origin as Robin
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Old January 7 2012, 06:47 AM   #28
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^ Nightwing: Year One was pretty good and the central idea behind it would make a good basis for a Nightwing movie.
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Old January 7 2012, 06:50 AM   #29
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^ Ah we finally agree on something Okay now I remember about those rumours from a couple years ago now that you mentioned the time frame. I still don't think a live action television series is feasible. The economy is a big problem right now. Look at all the productions shutting down. I also think this is one reason why DC can't get their shows off the ground. Their concepts are too expensive to produce right now...but maybe that's a subject left better to another thread.
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Old January 7 2012, 06:52 AM   #30
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I don't think a live action Batman TV series would be all that successful. I don't know why I think this. Just a feeling, I suppose.
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