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Old December 25 2011, 11:55 PM   #1
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Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

While I think Dennis McCarthy's theme is fantastic (which quite rightly won an Emmy for best theme), I wonder what Jerry Goldsmith's theme would have been like.
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Old December 26 2011, 12:15 AM   #2
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

I prefered Voyager's theme, so I imagine his DS9 theme might have been better than the one we got.
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Old December 26 2011, 12:20 AM   #3
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

Voyager's theme was a bit too... dramatic for me, especially for a series which wasn't all that dramatic. I like the quickened version of the DS9 theme introduced in "The Way of the Warrior", which McCarthy named "No Longer Alone".
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Old December 26 2011, 12:34 AM   #4
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

I dunno ... I quite like the DS9 theme, especially the uptempo version. I love Goldsmith's work, but I was thrilled with what we got from DS9.
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Old December 26 2011, 12:45 AM   #5
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

I'm glad we got McCarthy's Deep Space Nine theme. It's the best of all the main themes and I don't care whether the composer's name is McCarthy or Goldsmith.
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Old December 26 2011, 12:02 PM   #6
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

I bet you a million dollars the primary reason why Jerry Goldsmith didn't get the DS9 gig was because he asked for too much money.
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Old December 28 2011, 02:28 AM   #7
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

^I'd take that bet, if I had some to spare. Why'd he do the Voyager theme, then?
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Old December 28 2011, 07:04 AM   #8
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I like that the show's theme was incorporated heavily into the entire show's musical identity. We hear it in practically every episode it seems.
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Old December 28 2011, 04:39 PM   #9
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

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^I'd take that bet, if I had some to spare. Why'd he do the Voyager theme, then?
Voyager was heralded as the flagship show of a new network. Paramount was more than willing to spend the dough for sure.
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Old January 1 2012, 01:33 AM   #10
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

I always felt that the second version of the DS9 theme, heard in the later seasons, was "Goldsmithed", to a certain extent. It has a character a bit closer to what Maestro Goldsmith produces than McCarthy's original (which I always felt was a bit meek for an adventure show)
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Old January 2 2012, 11:12 AM   #11
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I like McCarthy's theme (and, although I think it was wise to change it beginning in season four, I prefer the softer, earlier version) and wouldn't want it replaced. It's probably one of his best compositions for the franchise.
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Old January 4 2012, 05:51 PM   #12
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

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I like McCarthy's theme (and, although I think it was wise to change it beginning in season four, I prefer the softer, earlier version) and wouldn't want it replaced. It's probably one of his best compositions for the franchise.
I agree completely. While I don't hate the up-tempo version, I prefer the slower one from seasons 1-3.

Of course, the second version is not necessarily out of place the way ENTERPRISE's up-tempo redo was.
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Old January 4 2012, 06:05 PM   #13
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Re: Jerry Goldsmith was approached to write the DS9 theme

It sounds like a shadow of the TNG theme. I assume it would be harmonically daring and dark and gritty ala Aliens or Predator or Damien Omen albeit lighter and more spacey. It would probably be very self contained and figuratively tight motivically ala Stravinsky or Bartok. He would probably mimic the style of Trek composers of old including Courage and Fried and Steiner and channel some of that early Americana of the golden age of tv that he started with and was so much a part of. It would have been more exciting though. He was a giant and legendary. The Voyager theme is haunting. He always seemed to give the producers exactly what they subconsciously wanted. It's just another example of Trek running itself over in it's mad power and glory seeking blind tyrranical approach.
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Old January 4 2012, 08:14 PM   #14
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Of course, the second version is not necessarily out of place the way ENTERPRISE's up-tempo redo was.
Definitely. On Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the change in tempo (which was accompanied by a change in the main title visuals) made thematic sense. On Enterprise, as the show was entering a darker period...the music got upbeat, and the visuals stayed exactly the same? I never got that decision (moreover, the season 3-4 version of "Faith of the Heart" is terrible).
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Old January 5 2012, 11:09 PM   #15
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(moreover, the season 3-4 version of "Faith of the Heart" is terrible)
"Faith of the Heart" is terrible in general.

Does not belong in Star Trek.
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