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Old April 24 2012, 06:06 AM   #751
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"deathly allergic to citrus"

I love it when they create an aspect to a character and it shows up later on.

"Every mission we go out on, I carry an orange in my pocket for just in case we need to take him down."

Which sounds like how Batman in the 90s Justice League Toon spent years carrying a slither of kryptonite around in a lead lined pocket in his utility belt, for "just in case".
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Old April 24 2012, 07:17 PM   #752
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SyFy endearing itself to fanboys/girls by treating them like wildebeest on Wild Kingdom.

The potential docuseries would celebrate the unique and often misunderstood fanboy and fangirl culture (science fiction/fantasy/super hero offerings encompassing comics, video games, TV and movies and those who obsess over them)
We already have that "docuseries," it's called the internet. From the producer of Jersey Shore no less! Okay geeks, show us your abs!

Just for laffs (and to distract Guy from giving us any more random lectures about citrus), here are the other unscripted series SyFy is threatening to inflict on us:
Chris Cox Project-- Chris Cox is the mind reader who can’t read minds...In everyday situations and locations -- at a coffee shop, the post office, or just walking down the street -- Chris amazes and confounds real people.

Divas of Dress Up -- Follows the six hottest cos-play stars as they push the boundaries of creativity and costuming in this docu-series that takes viewers inside the amazingly creative world of cos-play competition.

• Limitless-- Recounts firsthand, true-life tales of ordinary men and women who discovered hidden powers -- they never knew existed -- when faced with extreme life and death circumstances.

• Superhuman -- Uncovers the secrets of unbelievable stunts, record-breaking abilities and exceptional feats of human power and skill by putting real people through physical on-location challenges and a series of tests in a high-tech lab to answer the question: “How did they do that?”

• Toy Traveler-- Shane Turgeon, the Indiana Jones of toy collectors, travels to remote corners of the world to find the rarest and most valuable toys and collectibles.

• Master Control-- A weekly competition that pits user-generated videos against one another in a battle for viewer popularity.

• Stranger Than Fiction -- A viral video clip show where comedians compete for laughs while commenting on and arguing over the strangest clips from the web.
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Old April 24 2012, 07:31 PM   #753
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Lots of news from SyFy today (their upfronts are tonight) so I'll make this a separate post. More cheap reality shows picked up, still nothing worth bothering with. Are they going to pick up any scripted series at all???

Hot Set – From the producers of Syfy’s hit series Face Off, Hot Set is an extreme design challenge pitting two Hollywood production designers each week in a head-to-head battle to design, build, decorate and ultimately create an original and signature movie set that transports the viewer into an immersive world.

Paranormal Highway – Summer — Paranormal Highway puts the pedal to the metal as Jack Osbourne and Dana Workman investigate the most frightening claims of paranormal activity along America’s remote back roads.

Collection Intervention — Collection Intervention follows Elyse Luray, a sharp and to-the-point collectibles expert as she helps couples who are divided over what to do with an overwhelming collection of memorabilia.

Viral Video Showdown — The greatest viral video creators on the planet go head-to-head each week in an epic battle for bragging rights and a cash prize.

Ghost Mine — In the remote woods of Oregon lays one of the richest gold mines in the United States. For the last 100 years, it has remained abandoned — until now. Soon to be re-opened by a scraggly group of miners, these hardy souls will battle the elements to find their fortune. But with a rich history of paranormal activity surrounding the mine, they may just find something else.

School Spirits (previously announced) — Premieres June — School Spirits will tell true ghost stories of hauntings that have happened at schools across the country.
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Old April 24 2012, 07:43 PM   #754
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I shouldn't get upset at SyFy, I know it is a lost cause. But why oh why can't they name it something else, and give us a new channel that actually has science fiction programming.

Truth in labeling. Oh well, at least Science Channel has some interesting science fiction type stuff.
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Old April 24 2012, 07:49 PM   #755
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The Fox 25th anniversary had a section about their science fiction and they were saying "look how awesome we are!' Without mentioning haw they cancelled all these shows prematurely.

Zombie raping.
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Old April 24 2012, 08:02 PM   #756
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Caliburn24 wrote: View Post
Truth in labeling. Oh well, at least Science Channel has some interesting science fiction type stuff.
Are they scripted dramas? I haven't heard about anything from Science but documentaries about science and maybe a few about sci fi.
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Old April 24 2012, 08:28 PM   #757
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I shouldn't get upset at SyFy, I know it is a lost cause. But why oh why can't they name it something else, and give us a new channel that actually has science fiction programming.
Because there aren't enough viewers interested in SF or other niche programming to enable a commercial-supported niche network to be profitable. Many formerly niche cable networks, like Arts & Entertainment or Court TV or The Nashville Network, have lost too many viewers to stay profitable and have had to embrace more generic, inexpensive programming (and often new names and identities) in order to survive. This is industry-wide, because television viewing is declining due to all the competition from the Internet, DVDs, etc. So the only way Syfy can afford to keep making any original SF/fantasy programming at all is to pay the bills by filling the bulk of their schedule with the wrestling and reality shows and cheap movies that bring in a wider audience. Ultimately it's the tastes of the audience (particularly the demographics that the advertisers favor) that determine networks' lineups, not the whims of the executives. And sadly, there's a much bigger audience for wrestling and reality shows than there is for original scripted science fiction, and Syfy has no choice but to shape its schedule accordingly if it wants to stay in business, just like so many other former niche networks before it.

If anything, it's admirable that Syfy still produces any genre programming at all, after so many other niche networks have given up their identities completely.
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Old April 24 2012, 08:38 PM   #758
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Maybe "real" sci fi is profitable. But cheap reality crap posing as sci fi is even more profitable - same ratings, lower cost.

But I'm not impressed that Syfy is still fitfully attempting to make sci fi, when both AMC and TNT have had big hits with sci fi series (The Walking Dead and Falling Skies respectively). That shows that sci fi doesn't need to be a charity case.

Syfy has just hit on a cheaper, easier way to make a buck. But it could blow up in their face. They're degrading their brand, becoming a joke channel, while AMC continues to foster a quality brand image and TNT isn't doing too bad either. Doing things the cheap way isn't always the smartest strategy, especially when you take the long-term view.

At this point, I'm actually more sanguine about some worthwhile sci fi (of the Earth-based variety) appearing on network TV vs Syfy. NBC is desperate to redefine itself and try to survive. Desperation might make them do interesting things. ABC seems pretty locked into fantasy vs sci fi but I can see a time when FOX will have to return to the sci fi fold, after having been badly burned this season.
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Old April 24 2012, 08:48 PM   #759
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Syfy picks up rights to supernatural mystery series by True Blood author Charlane Harris.
Harris’ four-book series, launched in 2005, follows a young woman who was struck by lightning as a teenager. Now in her 20s, she senses the location and last memories of dead people. In the Syfy adaptation, Connelly teams up with her protective stepbrother, Tolliver Lang, to help find a missing teenage girl, only to uncover a network of lies and murders throughout a small town in the Ozarks.
A supernatural Justified? I wish. Probably will turn out more like Haven.
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Old April 24 2012, 09:44 PM   #760
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Apparently Syfy read my bitter recriminations about their lack of scripted development and has moved expeditiously to rectify the situation.

And best yet - look! Actual space-based series, will wonders never cease! Bryan Fuller is Executive Producer:

High Moon – Based on the novel, The Lotus Caves, by John Christopher, this imaginative, out-of-this-world series explores a world where the countries of Earth have established colonies to mine the Moon’s resources. When a new life form is discovered, chaos erupts as various factions race to uncover its powerful secrets.
And Robert Hewitt Wolfe's series survived! I was getting pretty worried without any news.

Defender – In the aftermath of an intergalactic war between humans and transhumans, the starship Defender, populated by a combustible mix of former enemies, is sent on a seemingly simple goodwill mission, which turns into a fight for their lives and for the safety of the Universe at large.
This is big enough news that I think I'll give it its own thread.
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Old April 24 2012, 10:15 PM   #761
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^ Wait...Does this mean we have to stop using the insult about no SciFi on the SciFi channel

Good news they are trying again, here's to hoping good things come of, and Space opera can be revitalized for them
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Old April 24 2012, 10:17 PM   #762
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Wee-elll...it might be prudent to wait and see to make sure the new shows don't totally suck.

But RHW and Bryan Fuller are involved in the space series. I think that's a good enough sign to stop with the skiffy bashing. They've demonstrated good faith, so shall I.

The weird thing is...isn't the scripted and unscripted development together a whole lot of content for just one channel? The broadcast nets never greenlight this many new shows. Are they taking a meat cleaver to their existing lineup? I don't watch anything currently so it wouldn't bother me, but I'm curious. Maybe they're ditching wrestling?
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Old April 24 2012, 10:18 PM   #763
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They're %100 for it and %150 against it. Defender sounds cliche - alot of bridge shaking action without the budget to make it work like say Starship Troopers.
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Old April 24 2012, 10:51 PM   #764
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I'll take a "cliched" space opera series now, thank you very much. It beats no space opera at all.

And if you mean that being a bit of a throwback to the corny earnestness of TOS is cliched - sure, that sounds great! And I also think it's smart, ratings-wise, too. nuBSG style navel-gazing doesn't really have an expansive appeal. My guess is that RHW is going to tap into a woefully underserved and hungry audience.
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Old April 24 2012, 10:55 PM   #765
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I have complete confidence in RHW and semi-complete confidence in Bryan Fuller. I'll give both of those shows a try.

It's probably too much to hope that they'd actually ditch wrestling. More likely Sanctuary won't come back-- I don't think they ever renewed that. And we know Eureka won't be back. I think everything else is safe for at least one more season.
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