Batman vs. Trek vs. Bond - Round 4

[Lord Garth]

We all knew this round would come. We all know the choices. So I'm going to throw some extra things into it. Some good movies that, if you haven't seen them, you should check them out.

Oh yeah, almost forgot, the winners of the first three rounds:

1. Goldeneye
2. Star Trek: First Contact
3. The World Is Not Enough

[Random_Spock]

Damn... some good choices. It was a tough vote. Went with Ghost Dog this time.

[Praetor_Shinzon]

Batman & Robin, Die Another Day, and Star Trek: Nemesis are each the worst movies of their respective franchise.

[Harvey]

I'll vote for Amelie. I like Jeunet's style, for the most part.

I find The Gods Must Be Crazy to be more or less reprehensible, though. It's pro-Apartheid propaganda thinly disguised as an innocuous comedy.

[Starkers]

DAD, underrated Bond outing and way more enjoyable than TWINE.

Amelie is lovely as well though

[Captaindemotion]

Starkers wrote:

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DAD, underrated Bond outing and way more enjoyable than TWINE.

Amelie is lovely as well though

I agree on both counts.

I voted for Ghost Dog though.

[trekkiebaggio]

I do like Amelie, but I'm going to keep to the competition and vote for Nemesis.

Batman and Robin is just awful. Die Another Day I've only seen once and I remember thinking it was not that great and a bit silly. Nemesis, well, when I first saw it I was very disappointed along with pretty much everyone else. But when I watched it again a couple of years later I didn't think it was that bad. Sure it has many flaws but it has some good action sequences and Tom Hardy is a good actor.

[Starkers]

I've watched Nemesis several times, and there are some good bits, but overall they're lost within some truly terrible illogical nonsense that starts with Starfleet officer driving/flying around a pre-warp civillisation blazing away with phasers, moves on to us meeting a villain who's going to die in days yet who can afford to sit on his hands for 24 hours, just to freak Picard out, before turning into TWOK re Data. The film does get better as it goes alone, I'll give it that much, but definitely the poorest of the Next Gen films for me, and arguably the poorest Trek film overall.

Tom Hardy is a v good actor though, and I expect him to make a great Bane...which brings us onto...

Batman and Robin is very, very bad though--although almost so bad it's good, but not quite. Uma is about the only redeeming feature.

[Admiral Shran]

I had to vote for Mary Poppins, as I haven't seen the other new options and....

Batman and Robin is a joke, pure and simple, and not in a humorous way.

Star Trek Nemesis is awful, but better than Batman and Robin, just barely.

Die Another Day.... .... .... .... well....
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[RandyS]

My beloved Star Trek gets the vote this time. While Nemesis is far from the best Star Trek movie, I never found it to be the crapfest that most other fans do.

Plus, it was the last movie my mom and I saw together before she died six months later, so it has a special sentimental attachment for me. Mom was the one that introduced me to Star Trek when I was a kid in the seventies.

That said, Die another Day, and Batman & Robin aren't bad movies either, just bad in relation to other films in their respective series. Ironically, Die Another Day was the last movie my mom and her husband saw in the theater also six months before she died. To this day, he still can't watch that movie, also for the obvious sentimental reasons.

[Lord Garth]

^ My condolences. I lost my mother when I was 18, and have similar thoughts about things we watched around that time.

This round looks like it's going to be tighter than the others. I'll declare the winner on Monday, February 5th @ 5:00 p.m. EST.

Looking at these and other fourth movies, it's no wonder film-makers aim for trilogies now. TVH is the exception that proves the rule because it was the third part of the Genesis Trilogy and it was a radical departure from the previous Star Trek movies.

EDIT: I also happen to like Alien Resurrection, but I know my opinion is in the minority there.

[Kai "the spy"]

Voted for DAD. I happen to like the movie a lot. It's a great anniversary movie, spanning the whole spectrum of tone of the Bond movies, from the dark and gritty beginning to the fantastical and funny end.

Nemesis, I can tolerate. It's not as bad as some say it is, but it is not a very good Trek movie, either.

B&R is ... unacceptable. Sure, as a kid a sat in the theatre and was even kinda enjoying it, but since then ... I tried to watch it again, a few years back. After fifteen minutes, I turned it off, because I couldn't bear to watch another second.

I ignored the other options, and I'm actually disappointed to see them in this poll. This thing started out with a good idea, to see which franchise is the most popular around. For that, we also need to see which of the unpopular movies of the franchises is the most popular compared to the other options. To give other options outside of the three franchises, among them such lovely classics as "Mary Poppins" is tempering with the whole concept, and thus will prevent us from actually seeing the realistic result.


@Lord Garth: I like "Alien Resurrection", too. True, some of that is because Winona Ryder was the love of my teenage years, but there were other things about that movie I liked. The sarcastic dialogues, for instance.

[Lord Garth]

Proportionately, I think it'll all still work out. Whether I put the extra options in or not, it would still be a dead heat between Nemesis and Die Another Day.

I don't care much for Nemesis but everything is more forced than atrocious. Die Another Day started off strong then became stupid. The opposite ends of the movie canel each other out. I'd choose Die Another Day on those grounds alone but those are the only two real options. No one is going to vote Batman & Robin, though maybe now someone will just because I said that...

I rewatched Batman & Robin with a bunch of friends in 2007 and it was even worse than what I'd remembered 10 years earlier.

[Lord Garth]

To keep all the rounds consistent, we need to break the tie between Nemesis and Die Another Day.

The other choices I listed were just my way of being more creative than "None of the above", but we have to have a clear winner. The Gods Must Be Crazy if they won't allow one.

In case the poll numbers won't change, I'll go by whichever of the two films has more posts in favor of it to break the tie.

[Starkers]

I can't believe Nemesis has beaten Die Another Day