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Old January 6 2012, 05:26 PM   #31
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Re: Star Trek and the Bechdel Test

That Bechdel "test" is funny. It's not fully thought through at all.

Just look at Voyager. Janeway and Seven of Nine might have a lot of conversations about something other than a man, but at the same time Seven of Nine wears a skintight catsuit and fake boobs just to get the sexually insecure male viewers' attention.
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Old January 6 2012, 07:36 PM   #32
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Re: Star Trek and the Bechdel Test

JarodRussell wrote: View Post
That Bechdel "test" is funny. It's not fully thought through at all.

Just look at Voyager. Janeway and Seven of Nine might have a lot of conversations about something other than a man, but at the same time Seven of Nine wears a skintight catsuit and fake boobs just to get the sexually insecure male viewers' attention.
I agree with you that Seven's costume is sexist, but the Bechdel test isn't designed to be the ultimate measure of how sexist a work is or is not. It's designed to measure one aspect of sexism in fiction -- whether or not female characters are depicted as having lives outside of their men. You might as well criticize a speedometer for not being able to tell you if the oil needs changed.
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Old January 6 2012, 09:24 PM   #33
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Re: Star Trek and the Bechdel Test

I think people are forgetting that the "Bechdel Test" or "the Rule" is actually from a comic strip. It was meant to be a pithy, biting, but humorous commentary, not an exhaustive sociological analysis. Like I said before, it's not intended to be a formal measurement system, but a rhetorical instrument for calling attention to an idea. And yes, that idea is just one piece of the puzzle of sexism in the media, but it's worth calling attention to and worth thinking about.
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