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Old July 25 2014, 11:27 PM   #1
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Star Trek/Planet of the Apes crossover

http://www.startrek.com/article/kirk...amn-dirty-apes

Nice. (hopefully Star Trek/Aliens next)

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Old July 26 2014, 12:01 AM   #2
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Re: Star Trek/Planet of the Apes crossover

"The Primate Directive"? Ohhhhhhh....
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Old July 26 2014, 12:25 AM   #3
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Ohmigod, I was just joking about this in another thread.

And who am I kidding? I'm definitely going to have to check this out.

(More Apes/Trek connections: David Gerrold, who famously wrote "The Trouble with Tribbles," also wrote the novelization of Battle for the Planet of the Apes--which is much better than the movie, btw.)
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Old July 26 2014, 12:40 AM   #4
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Re: Star Trek/Planet of the Apes crossover

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(More Apes/Trek connections: David Gerrold, who famously wrote "The Trouble with Tribbles," also wrote the novelization of Battle for the Planet of the Apes--which is much better than the movie, btw.)
And Mark Lenard played Urko in the Apes TV series!
http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_Lenard
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Old July 26 2014, 12:42 AM   #5
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Re: Star Trek/Planet of the Apes crossover

Don't forget Khan in Escape/Conquest (also Jerry Goldsmith and Leonard Rosenman)
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Old July 26 2014, 12:46 AM   #6
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More connections-- James Daly (Flint in "Requiem for Methuselah") is in the original film.
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Old July 26 2014, 12:51 AM   #7
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And Mark Lenard played Urko in the animated Apes series!
http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_Lenard
No, that was in the live-action TV series. Whose guests also included John Hoyt, Jon Lormer, Jay Robinson, Michael Strong, Morgan Woodward, Harry Townes, Lee Delano, Percy Rodrigues, Joseph Ruskin, and Ron Soble.

There was a version of Urko in the animated series Return to the Planet of the Apes, but he was played by Henry Corden, better known as the second voice of Fred Flintstone.
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Old July 26 2014, 01:03 AM   #8
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James Gregory (from 'Dagger of the Mind' and "The Manchurian Candidate") plays one of the gorilla generals in the films - "Beneath the Planet of the Apes," I believe.

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Old July 26 2014, 01:09 AM   #9
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And Mark Lenard played Urko in the animated Apes series!
http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_Lenard
No, that was in the live-action TV series.
Ah, ok. I was sure he had a link to the animateds. But yeah, I did once know that Lenard's Urko was live-action TV. Thanks!
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Old July 26 2014, 02:54 AM   #10
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Sounds interesting. Haven't bought a comic in close to 30 years probably bur may have to check this out
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Old July 26 2014, 04:00 AM   #11
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I'm wary of this. Crossovers often have to compromise one or the other series to make it work. I am a Planet of the Apes fan too though, and Trek does AU all the time so it should work. All my wariness aside, I'll be getting the trade.
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Old July 26 2014, 05:09 AM   #12
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TOS and Planet of the Apes were my favourite TV series in my youth.

The only comic books I have ever bought were Planet of the Apes and TOS. I still have them

Wow I'm gushing.

Still I'm wary too. And I'll probably never find a copy living here in the backwoods. But there's always the internet.
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Old July 26 2014, 05:14 AM   #13
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Only buying if Dr. McCoy sings:
"I hate every ape I see
From chimpan-A to chimpan-zee
No, you'll never make a monkey out of me!"
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Old July 26 2014, 06:29 AM   #14
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All those Apes/Trek connections...I can't believe no one mentioned Michael Giacchino, composer of Trek 11 and 12, and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.
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Old July 26 2014, 01:44 PM   #15
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I'm wary of this. Crossovers often have to compromise one or the other series to make it work. I am a Planet of the Apes fan too though, and Trek does AU all the time so it should work. All my wariness aside, I'll be getting the trade.
That's why I'm not too fond of science fiction crossovers as a rule -- SF universes, by their very nature, are about creating their own distinctive histories and physics and planets and species, so they're usually irreconcilable with one another on a pretty fundamental level. Stories like this have to be treated as "imaginary stories," more playful thought experiments than anything that could'e "actually" happened. They can be fun on that level, so long as you don't read too much into them. Still, I'd be happier to see crossovers between franchises that plausibly could go in the same universe, though that would be much harder to achieve.

And really, I think I'd be more interested in this if these inter-series crossovers weren't becoming so routine with the IDW license. We've had Legion of Super Heroes, Doctor Who, that loose Infestation crossover with various other IDW licenses, and now this, all within four years. It doesn't feel as much like an Event anymore.



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All those Apes/Trek connections...I can't believe no one mentioned Michael Giacchino, composer of Trek 11 and 12, and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.
Also, Wah Chang (TOS prop/ship designer) worked on the original film; Beneath had Jeff Corey, Gregory Sierra, and Lou Wagner as well as James Gregory; Escape had Ricardo Montalban, William Windom, Jason Evers, Janos Prohaska, and voice artist Walker Edmiston; Conquest had Paul Comi as well as Montalban and Wagner; and Battle had France Nuyen as well as bit parts by Paula Crist and David Gerrold, who also novelized the film.

In addition to the cast I mentioned above, the live-action TV series had John Meredyth Lucas and Ralph Senensky as directors and Edward J. Lakso, Art Wallace, Robert Hamner, Shimon Wincelberg, and Booker "Dr. M'Benga" Bradshaw as writers, and its director of photography was TOS's Jerry Finnerman. And the animated series had at least one animator in common with TAS.

And I don't know why I'm mentioning it, because it's completely unrelated, but there's rumored to have been a 2001 Tim Burton movie having something to do with apes that was co-written by the screenwriters of The Undiscovered Country and executive-produced by Ralph Winter, and that featured David Warner, Erick Avari, and Deep Roy. But I'm not convinced that movie actually existed.
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