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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

View Poll Results: Which version of TMP do you like the best?
Original Theatrical Version/Blu-Ray 11 19.64%
Director's Edition DVD 37 66.07%
Extended Version/Original VHS and 1983 ABC broadcast 8 14.29%
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Old November 30 2011, 01:48 AM   #1
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ST:TMP on Blu-Ray - a second look





I know that over the years we've had a large number of threads devoted to TMP, but watching it on Blu-Ray for a second time compelled me to ask the above question.

Though I've owned (and enjoyed) the Director's Edition DVD for ten years, seeing the original theatrical version again on BD was a great nostalgia trip for me. I really love the image of T'Khut hanging in the Vulcan sky, the red-alert klaxon (that was changed on the DE), and even the omission that Kirk had asked Scotty to rig the Big E to destroy itself and V'GER.

That, and I'm amazed at how good the BD makes this 32 year old movie look. Hell, it looks better than many newer films I've watched on Blu-Ray!



In any event, I apologize if a similar thread has been done in the past. My main intention was to find out which version other fans of TMP liked the best, and the merits of each version.
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Old November 30 2011, 02:06 AM   #2
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I like the theatrical version the best, but would love to have a copy of the ABC Special Longer Version on Blu-ray.
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Old November 30 2011, 02:22 AM   #3
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I loathe the theatrical edition, which is a mess of a film, but the changes brought by the Director's Edition are a marginal improvement at best. New digital effects and re-editing can't fix the movie's inherent problems of its poor script and weak direction (though it does help...a little).

I know there are plenty of fans of Star Trek: The Motion Picture around here, but I've never been one of them.

I haven't seen the Blu-Ray, though (nor have a I seen the movie theatrically). I acknowledge that might change the experience.
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Old November 30 2011, 02:32 AM   #4
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(nor have a I seen the movie theatrically).


By that I assume you mean that you've never seen TMP on the big screen? It does raise the level of enjoyment, IMO.
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Old November 30 2011, 02:39 AM   #5
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That's what I meant, yeah. It's certainly a movie built on spectacle, which is always better on the big screen. I missed out on a chance to see it last winter. It just happened at the wrong time. I'm sure it will be shown in LA sometime again soon, though.
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Old November 30 2011, 02:41 AM   #6
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I think that the Director's Edition is an improved version of the movie. But I'm a fan of TMP and the theatrical version works well for me as well even with its flaws.
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Old November 30 2011, 02:51 AM   #7
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the theatrical version works well for me as well even with its flaws.


That's pretty much the way I feel about it as well. Though it does indeed have its flaws, after waiting for so many years for a Star Trek movie to materialize in the late 70s, I felt it was what Trek should have always looked like. Or if you like, it was the best realization of Roddenberry's vision of Trek.

And I still think that Trumbull's FX are superb, even by 2011 standards.


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Old November 30 2011, 05:25 AM   #8
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I voted for the Extended Version, which I own on VHS. I also have the Director's Edition on DVD. I will buy the Blu-Ray Theatrical Version when I buy a Blu-Ray Player/Recorder.

In the Extented Version, in the scene when the Enterprise leaves drydock, the black cloth covering the supporting arm holding the model of the Enterprise is noticeable. It was fixed in the Director's Edition (via cgi). Is it still noticeable in the Blu-Ray version?


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Old November 30 2011, 05:37 AM   #9
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the theatrical version works well for me as well even with its flaws.


That's pretty much the way I feel about it as well. Though it does indeed have its flaws, after waiting for so many years for a Star Trek movie to materialize in the late 70s, I felt it was what Trek should have always looked like. Or if you like, it was the best realization of Roddenberry's vision of Trek.

And I still think that Trumbull's FX are superb, even by 2011 standards.
I was around 12 when this came out. I don't remember "waiting" so much, I read Starlog once in a while but have no recollection of all the other proposed ideas of the time.

I had seen TOS in reruns here & there, so didn't have much to compare TMP to.

Obviously, it's considered a slow paced "visual" film in comparison to what came after it. At the time, it was an amazing thing to behold on the big screen.

I wonder how many people really thought it was so slow at the time it was released, without all the following films & TV shows to compare it to.
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Old November 30 2011, 09:28 AM   #10
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"The Director's Edition". There is no comparison.

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Old November 30 2011, 10:34 AM   #11
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I wonder how many people really thought it was so slow at the time it was released, without all the following films & TV shows to compare it to.


That's a good point. By 1979 standards, when I first saw it, I felt that it felt 'right', in terms of the pace and the type of story it was trying to tell. Yeah, the subsequent movies and TV series raised the bar on action and pace, but TMP is the only one that for me at least, evoked a sense of wonder and awe about the universe and felt like an epic film.
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Old November 30 2011, 02:14 PM   #12
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I prefer the original theatrical edition and agree it looks amazing on the recent remaster/clean-up.
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I'm a bit confused by Choice #3, "Extended Version/Original VHS and 1983 ABC broadcast". You do realize that the very first VHS/Beta release for home video was the theatrical version? Then they put out the "Special Longer Version" (1983), followed years later by the theatrical version on widescreen (in a boxed set, with an empty "First Contact" sleeve as a placeholder to await its separate release).
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Old November 30 2011, 11:11 PM   #14
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Now I'm confused, Therin. The first time that I ever recall seeing a VHS copy of TMP (I think in 1982), it was the Extended Version with the extra 12 or so minutes. I'm not disputing that there was a strictly theatrical version; I just didn't even realize that the theatrical made it to videotape. Could it have been a very limited release, perhaps?


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Old December 1 2011, 10:51 AM   #15
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I like the changes in the Director's Edition, but I voted for theatrical because the BD looks so amazing. If the Director's Edition ever makes it to BD, I won't mind the double dip.
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