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Old December 10 2011, 10:47 PM   #16
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Re: New blurbs for Raise the Dawn, Fallen Gods, and The Eternal Tide

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And/or maybe something that happened in the preceding half of the duology?
How do we know that Raise the Dawn isn't actually the first book in the duology? I just read the blurb for Plagues of Night, and it sounds to me like its events lead into the events of Zero Sum Game, which, as I noted in my last post, takes place AFTER the events of Rough Beasts of Empire.


Conversely, as I already noted, the blurb for Raise the Dawn sounds very much to me like it is a continuation of the events chronicled in RBoE.
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Old December 10 2011, 10:49 PM   #17
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It sounds to me as if Raise the Dawn is a continuation/follow-up to Rough Beasts of Empire.

If it is in fact a continuation of RBoE, I am going to be really interested in seeing how its present-day events tie in with the rest of the Typhon Pact novels, since, chronologically, RBoE is the first of the Typhon Pact sub-series.
Titan: Fallen Gods also seems to follow directly from the Titan Typhon Pact novel Seize the Fire, with references to Titan still looking for the terraforming technology featured prominently in the earlier novel.

Isn't Fallen Gods by Michael A Martin? The last line of the blurb mentions an Andorian finding a danger that had been "hiding in plain sight" for 200 years -- which puts it in the Enterprise era. With Martin also writing the Enterprise Romulan Wars novels, he may also referencing something from those novels (perhaps only hinted at), as well...
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Old December 10 2011, 11:40 PM   #18
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Re: New blurbs for Raise the Dawn, Fallen Gods, and The Eternal Tide

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How do we know that Raise the Dawn isn't actually the first book in the duology? I just read the blurb for Plagues of Night, and it sounds to me like its events lead into the events of Zero Sum Game, which, as I noted in my last post, takes place AFTER the events of Rough Beasts of Empire.

Conversely, as I already noted, the blurb for Raise the Dawn sounds very much to me like it is a continuation of the events chronicled in RBoE.
Because Plagues of Night is being published the month before Raise the Dawn maybe??

And also because DRG3 has commented a couple of times (on his facebook page) that his Plagues of Night picks up from all four of the first Typhon Pact novels.

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Isn't Fallen Gods by Michael A Martin? The last line of the blurb mentions an Andorian finding a danger that had been "hiding in plain sight" for 200 years -- which puts it in the Enterprise era. With Martin also writing the Enterprise Romulan Wars novels, he may also referencing something from those novels (perhaps only hinted at), as well...
Indeed, from what's been described so far it sounds a bit like Martin is trying to rescue some of the ideas he wasn't permitted to expand upon when the Romulan War series was cut down to two.
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Old December 11 2011, 12:04 AM   #19
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Re: New blurbs for Raise the Dawn, Fallen Gods, and The Eternal Tide

They all sound very cool!

Some quick thoughts:

Looks like DRGIII's trilogy will definitely help continue the story of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, even if it's published under the Typhon Pact banner.

The blurbs don't say that the Typhon Pact is moving towards "interstellar domination." It says that factions within the Pact want that -- and that other factions in the Pact, such as the Romulan government, are working towards peace and stability. This builds upon what we've seen from previous Typhon Pact entries -- the Breen seem hostile to the Federation and the Kinshaya to the Klingons, for instance, while the current Romulan government and a significant Kinshaya faction have no such angry impulses, and the Tzenkethi are less about being hostile towards anyone than about being manipulative for their own welfare and stability.

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How can the Andorian or Federation governments rid Starfleet crews of their Andorian crewmembers? This makes no sense to me. The Andorian government would have no right take away the Federation citizenships of expat Andorian Federates; the most they could do to an Andorian Federate not living on an Andorian world, ship, or station would be to strip them of their Andorian citizenships in abstentia. (I suppose the Andorian government could imprison an Andorian Federate living on its worlds, ships, or stations if they refuse to renounce their Federation citizenships, but that would run directly counter to their promise at the end of Paths of Disharmony, and to Andor's democratic nature.)

And the Federation shouldn't be able to single out Andorians, for that matter -- it's already an established fact that Starfleet officers can be foreign citizens (Nog) or dual citizens (Worf), and singling out Andorians would be speciesist discrimination.
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Old December 11 2011, 12:21 AM   #20
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And the Federation shouldn't be able to single out Andorians, for that matter -- it's already an established fact that Starfleet officers can be foreign citizens (Nog) or dual citizens (Worf), and singling out Andorians would be speciesist discrimination.
Maybe certain factions within the Federation are feeling spiteful? Perhaps a few Andorian Starfleet officers ended up "turning" and sabotaging things to avenge the UFP's "betrayal" and now someone in Starfleet's leadership has an agenda about weeding out the Blue Menace? Just because it runs counter to the Federation's value systems doesn't mean they can't slip up in places. Maybe some of the Satie-types are back in power as part of the recent "Pact Cold War" phase?
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Old December 11 2011, 12:29 AM   #21
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With Pava being singled out like that, I have this little hope that it means that there might be some kind of follow up on the story hinted at near the end of the Starfleet Academy comics. It'd be nice to get some resolution to that.
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Old December 11 2011, 12:32 AM   #22
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With Pava being singled out like that, I have this little hope that it means that there might be some kind of follow up on the story hinted at near the end of the Starfleet Academy comics. It'd be nice to get some resolution to that.
Yes. The Viators.
Cue brainstorming as to how the word "Viator" might relate to ancient terraforming and other Titan plot threads!
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Old December 11 2011, 12:47 AM   #23
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And/or maybe something that happened in the preceding half of the duology?
Thats what I'm thinking.
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Old December 11 2011, 12:52 AM   #24
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Another thought: Given that we have slipstream now, do you think there's a chance that the "threat to the wormhole" might actually result in the loss of it? We can now feature the Gamma Quadrant and Dominion without it, after all, so it might have become suitable for "killing off"?
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Old December 11 2011, 01:10 AM   #25
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Wow, these sound awesome.
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Old December 11 2011, 01:24 AM   #26
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How can the Andorian or Federation governments rid Starfleet crews of their Andorian crewmembers? This makes no sense to me.
Sounds to me like the author will have fun trying to answer that question in a novel for us to read.
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Old December 11 2011, 01:28 AM   #27
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Re: New blurbs for Raise the Dawn, Fallen Gods, and The Eternal Tide

Finally, Voyager going into former Borg Space. I knew they were going to do that eventually, but I want to see it, **^& it!

Glad to see Mike Martin following up on that Terraforming Tech story plot. By the end of Seize the Fire was was almost screaming at the book "For all love, WHO invented the technology?!?"
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Old December 11 2011, 02:05 AM   #28
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Re: New blurbs for Raise the Dawn, Fallen Gods, and The Eternal Tide

They also have the description up for the first half of DRGIII's TP duology, Plagues of Night.
An all-new novel set in the universe of Star Trek: The Next Generation! In the wake of the final Borg invasion, which destroyed entire worlds, cost the lives of sixty-three billion people, and struck a crippling blow to Starfleet, six nations adversarial to the United Federation of Planets—the Romulan Star Empire, the Breen Confederacy, the Tholian Assembly, the Gorn Hegemony, the Tzenkethi Coalition, and the Holy Order of the Kinshaya—joined ranks to form the Typhon Pact. For almost three years, the Federation and the Klingon Empire, allied under the Khitomer Accords, have contended with the nascent coalition on a predominantly cold-war footing. But as Starfleet rebuilds itself, factions within the Typhon Pact grow restive,concerned about their own inability to develop a quantum slipstream drive to match that of the Federation.Will leaders such as UFP President Bacco and RSE Praetor Kamemor bring about a lasting peace across the Alpha and Beta Quadrants, or will the cold war between the two alliances deepen, and perhaps even lead to an all-out shooting war?
and Storming Heaven, the Vanguard finale.
The final novel in the acclaimed Vanguard saga, based on Star Trek: The Original Series!Secret operations, sealed orders, high-risk military special operations—such dangerous missions have been at the core of the Star Trek Vanguard series since its inception. Four great nations—the Federation, the Klingon Empire, the Tholian Assembly, and the Romulan Star Empire—have all taken tremendous risks in their race to learn and control the technologies of the ancient interstellar hegemons known as the Shedai. Now get ready for the mystery of the Taurus Reach to be revealed….
All of these books sound great, I can't wait to get my hands on them.
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Old December 11 2011, 02:16 AM   #29
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^ The Vanguard blurb is an error. That was the original (inaccurate) sales blurb for Declassified. I've asked for the digital catalog to be updated with the back-cover copy, but so far I've received no response, nor have I been told when I might be able to promote said back-cover description. But that is definitely not it.
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Old December 11 2011, 02:17 AM   #30
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That was actually on the main page for the book on the S&S site, not the catalog.
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