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Old February 16 2012, 08:05 PM   #991
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Re: Does It Get Better???

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Hopefully his good acting continues until the end of the show (although I'm not going to hold my breath).
Oh, you poor poor fellow...
Changed my mind. I think I will hold my...(suffocating).
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Old February 16 2012, 09:17 PM   #992
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Garret Wang was utilizing the "talk through gritted teeth all the time to express frustration" acting technique, I found his attempts at acting in "Timeless" pretty pathetic.
I thought that Wang was a horrible actor most of the time but in Timeless he was pretty good. It was probably his best performance on the show.
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Old February 16 2012, 09:58 PM   #993
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God, there's still his speech to Janeway in "The Disease" to "look forward" to. I found "Nightingale" to be his most tolerable performance.
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Old February 16 2012, 10:10 PM   #994
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Better than when he was spaced in Deadlock?
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Old February 16 2012, 10:23 PM   #995
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Ha, "Nightingale"...
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Old February 16 2012, 10:45 PM   #996
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Better than when he was spaced in Deadlock?
I'll admit, it's pretty hard to beat that moment. It was the high point of Deadlock for me.

But I do still think that Timeless is his best episode. They finally did something useful with his character. He was integral to the story, and I must say I really felt for him after his big mistake sent the crew of Voyager to their doom. That wouldn't have been easy to live with.
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Old February 16 2012, 11:42 PM   #997
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Now I'm wondering how much better things might have been if Harry had been a Maquis rather than a good little Fleet boy.
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Old February 17 2012, 12:10 AM   #998
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They wouldn't have been, because the writers and showrunners were the same.
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Old February 17 2012, 12:12 AM   #999
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Harry is what Wesley would be all grown up.
"Timeless" works for so many fans because it shows us the Harry/Wesley we wanted them to be. the audience didn't want Harry to come home still a mama's boy. We wanted him to come home with some type of post traumatic stress disorder. Harry wasn't a good Starfleet boy taking orders, Harry was now a criminal.
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Old February 17 2012, 01:59 AM   #1000
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But Wesley decided it was a mistake to be Kim.

He found a better way to live his life than be meat for the machine.

Wesley is Kim if nothing meaningful or interesting had ever happened to Wesley.
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Old February 17 2012, 02:09 AM   #1001
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Now I'm wondering how much better things might have been if Harry had been a Maquis rather than a good little Fleet boy.
Considering how blandly the bad boy of the series, Tom Paris, was written I doubt he would have been any different.
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Old February 17 2012, 02:44 AM   #1002
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Infinite Regress: An interesting episode with some good bits. It was fun to see Jeri Ryan take on so many different personalities. I also really liked the scenes in her mind towards the end when she was in a mind meld with Tuvok; they were very frightening but effective. I also liked the guest aliens, and I hope that they appear again later in the season.
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Old February 17 2012, 03:49 AM   #1003
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Confused Matthew quite accurately pointed the main problem with this episode - Seven is supposed to be taking on the personalities of individuals assimilated by the Borg. But the writing is absolute horseshit, Seven does not become those various individuals or display their personalities - she's written to just act as complete cliches of each race. Her "Klingon character" is written to what amounts to a caveman, and the "Ferengi" she becomes is just totally cliched Ferengi crap about ears and buying. Its laughably terrible and shallow.
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Old February 17 2012, 03:52 AM   #1004
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I never liked this episode despite being a huge 7 fan. But then I never liked the Jadzia's past lives episode either. I just find this stuff kind of embarrassing and forced.
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Old February 17 2012, 04:00 AM   #1005
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That's a fair criticism, and one which I would agree with. There's still plenty to redeem it, though, hence my score of 6/10.
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