Does It Get Better??? - Page 25

RoJoHen · January 10 2012, 06:22 PM

tighr wrote:

AdmiralScreed wrote:

Darkling: A unremarkable episode. I didn't care too much for "Evil Doctor." And the aliens of the week weren't particularly interesting. Still, this episode did have its good moments. I liked the scenes on the holodeck with the historical figures, and the Doctor's scene with B'Elanna at the beginning was quite funny. I also liked most of the scenes with Kes.
4/10

Darkling blows ass.

0/10. Worst episode of Voyager.

Worst? Really? I can probably come up with one or two that rank lower.

tighr · January 10 2012, 06:25 PM

RoJoHen wrote:

tighr wrote:

Darkling blows ass.

0/10. Worst episode of Voyager.

Worst? Really? I can probably come up with one or two that rank lower.

Shoot. Let me know which ones, and I'll re-think my statement. Try to keep it spoiler-free though with regards to later seasons for the OP's sake.

Methos · January 10 2012, 06:29 PM

"Nothing Human" and "Threshold" are two that immediately spring to mind as the 'worst of the worst' for Voy...

those are the two i normally skip when rewatching

M

You_Will_Fail · January 10 2012, 06:38 PM

Misco wrote:

My opinion of Rise! was so low that I used to rank it alongside the episode Nemesis for sheer hate/boredom

I love Nemesis!

And wow tighrl, they're some pretty strong Kes opinions. Personally I liked both Neelix and Kes a great deal and thought they both worked great.
And yeah I wouldn't rate Darkling as worst, I thought the Kes aspect of the episode did actually work and it was interesting to see her start to actually change a bit as a character. Oh and the episode DID give us the "I'm 3 years old now!" line which always makes me laugh.

RoJoHen · January 10 2012, 06:41 PM

tighr wrote:

RoJoHen wrote:

tighr wrote:

Darkling blows ass.

0/10. Worst episode of Voyager.

Worst? Really? I can probably come up with one or two that rank lower.

Shoot. Let me know which ones, and I'll re-think my statement. Try to keep it spoiler-free though with regards to later seasons for the OP's sake.

For me, "Tattoo" and "The Fight" qualify...basically, any episode where we explore Chakotay's Indian heritage.

Satyrquaze · January 10 2012, 06:41 PM

AdmiralScreed wrote:

Hi folks.

Does It Get Better???

NO SPOILERS!

Short answer: NO.

Long answer: NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

You_Will_Fail · January 10 2012, 06:43 PM

RoJoHen wrote:

For me, "Tattoo" and "The Fight" qualify...basically, any episode where we explore Chakotay's Indian heritage.

Oh god, "The Fight", probably the only Trek episode I had to fast forward on subtitles just to get it over and done with, I couldn't take it anymore after only 10 minutes.

tighr · January 10 2012, 06:43 PM

Ah yes, Threshold and Nothing Human. Both very bad episodes, I agree. However, they're at least watch-able to me.

Nothing Human - everyone on the ship decides that its better to be racist against a computer generated hologram than it is to save their friend. I'll still watch it. 1/10. Maybe even 2/10.

Threshold - The only things I didn't like about this episode were that Warp 10 != transwarp (some writer shoulda lost his head over that one) and that the ending was ridiculous. Other than that, the story could have worked had someone with decent writing chops got their hand on it first (likely RDM, if he wasn't on DS9 at the time). I'm inclined to give this one a 0/10 as well.

But due to lack of granular resolution in a discrete 0-10 scoring system, I need to clarify that Darkling is still worse than Threshold.

If there is an episode I like LESS than Darkling, its one that the OP hasn't gotten to yet that features Chakotay. I don't want to color the OP's judgement, so I'll wait until he gets to it.

EDIT: Oh, and while I was typing up my reviews, it appears two other posters went ahead and named it, so for clarity sake I am indeed referring to "The Fight".

AdmiralScreed · January 10 2012, 06:45 PM

You_Will_Fail wrote:

I thought the Kes aspect of the episode did actually work and it was interesting to see her start to actually change a bit as a character.

Agreed. It was Kes' development in this episode that saved it from getting a 3/10 or lower on my scale.
And I also thought her line about being 3 years old was pretty funny too.

RoJoHen · January 10 2012, 06:47 PM

tighr wrote:

If there is an episode I like LESS than Darkling, its one that the OP hasn't gotten to yet that features Chakotay. I don't want to color the OP's judgement, so I'll wait until he gets to it.

EDIT: Oh, and while I was typing up my reviews, it appears two other posters went ahead and named it, so for clarity sake I am indeed referring to "The Fight".

I think, in some cases, you need to be prepared for how bad an episode sucks.

Methos · January 10 2012, 06:47 PM

ohh yeah, The Fight... apparently i'd erased that one from my mind altogether lol

M

AdmiralScreed · January 10 2012, 06:48 PM

And since we're talking bad episodes now, I would have to say that Elogium and Tattoo are the two worst episodes I've seen so far. Elogium is just stupid and uncomfortable to watch, and Tatoo suffers from just being completely boring.

RoJoHen · January 10 2012, 06:49 PM

"Elogium" is just...weird.

Methos · January 10 2012, 06:51 PM

Watch "Elogium" when drunk... seriously... it makes more sense lol

M

AdmiralScreed · January 10 2012, 07:03 PM

Methos wrote:

Watch "Elogium" when drunk... seriously... it makes more sense lol

M

I'll keep that in mind for when I turn 21.

January 10 2012, 06:29 PM	#363
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Does It Get Better??? "Nothing Human" and "Threshold" are two that immediately spring to mind as the 'worst of the worst' for Voy... those are the two i normally skip when rewatching M

January 10 2012, 06:43 PM	#368
tighr Commodore Location: California	Re: Does It Get Better??? Ah yes, Threshold and Nothing Human. Both very bad episodes, I agree. However, they're at least watch-able to me. Nothing Human - everyone on the ship decides that its better to be racist against a computer generated hologram than it is to save their friend. I'll still watch it. 1/10. Maybe even 2/10. Threshold - The only things I didn't like about this episode were that Warp 10 != transwarp (some writer shoulda lost his head over that one) and that the ending was ridiculous. Other than that, the story could have worked had someone with decent writing chops got their hand on it first (likely RDM, if he wasn't on DS9 at the time). I'm inclined to give this one a 0/10 as well. But due to lack of granular resolution in a discrete 0-10 scoring system, I need to clarify that Darkling is still worse than Threshold. If there is an episode I like LESS than Darkling, its one that the OP hasn't gotten to yet that features Chakotay. I don't want to color the OP's judgement, so I'll wait until he gets to it. EDIT: Oh, and while I was typing up my reviews, it appears two other posters went ahead and named it, so for clarity sake I am indeed referring to "The Fight". __________________ ~Tighr™: Not helping the situation since 1983

January 10 2012, 06:47 PM	#371
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Does It Get Better??? ohh yeah, The Fight... apparently i'd erased that one from my mind altogether lol M

January 10 2012, 06:48 PM	#372
AdmiralScreed Captain Location: Minnesota	Re: Does It Get Better??? And since we're talking bad episodes now, I would have to say that Elogium and Tattoo are the two worst episodes I've seen so far. Elogium is just stupid and uncomfortable to watch, and Tatoo suffers from just being completely boring.

January 10 2012, 06:49 PM	#373
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January 10 2012, 06:51 PM	#374
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Does It Get Better??? Watch "Elogium" when drunk... seriously... it makes more sense lol M