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View Poll Results: Rate Rise Like Lions.
Outstanding 55 62.50%
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Old December 15 2011, 10:17 PM   #106
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Re: Star Trek: Mirror Universe: Rise Like Lions review thread (spoiler

According to Archer, Cochrane warned people in the Prime Universe and they just thought he was a crazy drunk. See what alcohol did to contribute to a peaceful future.

Dooby dooby! Dooby dooby doo wha!
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Old December 17 2011, 12:31 AM   #107
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I have a nother question, the name escapes me but the Nebula that Calhoun hides in on the Romulan-Klingon border sounds an awful lot like the highly volitile Azure Nebula, (it's called by a klingon name in Lions) but wasn't that nebula formed by the destruction of the Calier homeworld and the efforts of the MACOs from Columbia?
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Old December 17 2011, 12:51 AM   #108
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I have a nother question, the name escapes me but the Nebula that Calhoun hides in on the Romulan-Klingon border sounds an awful lot like the highly volitile Azure Nebula, (it's called by a klingon name in Lions) but wasn't that nebula formed by the destruction of the Calier homeworld and the efforts of the MACOs from Columbia?
The destruction of the Caeliar homeworld was caused by an attack from an extragalactic power even more advanced than the Caeliar -- because it was
The MACOs did not cause the event to happen; they just had the bad luck to be there when it did. What the MACOs' actions caused was the destabilization of the subspace tunnels that the Caeliar tried to use to escape the supernova. Without their actions, more Caeliar would've survived, but the supernova would've still happened, because that wasn't their doing.

Anyway, who's to say the Mirror Columbia didn't discover the Caeliar? The actions of a Mirror-Universe crew would've been much the same as the actions of the MACOs in Destiny, I imagine.
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Old December 17 2011, 12:53 AM   #109
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In the book it's called the Joch'chal Nebula. I seem to recall I meant for it to correspond to the Paulson Nebula depicted in Star Charts.
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Old December 17 2011, 05:09 AM   #110
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In the book it's called the Joch'chal Nebula. I seem to recall I meant for it to correspond to the Paulson Nebula depicted in Star Charts.
Which, IIRC, was the nebula in which the Enterprise hid in "The Best of Both Worlds, Part I."
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Old December 17 2011, 07:13 PM   #111
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Downloaded the kindle version yesterday and finnished it today. Fantastic book.
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Old December 19 2011, 02:11 PM   #112
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Just started it. Not bad so far. But noticed something. It references Kes as a "young Ocampa." Since it is 2377, that means Kes is 7 years old, and the average Ocampa lifespan in 9. I believe in "Before and After" this was when they started putting on the aging makeup for her. She really should be an "older Ocampa" or "middle-aged Ocampa."
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Old December 19 2011, 02:58 PM   #113
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Actually, in "Before and After" Kes didn't begin to show signs of aging until sometime within 6 months before her ninth birthday, so late '78 or early '79.
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Old December 19 2011, 04:02 PM   #114
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Well, I did say "I believe."
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Old December 19 2011, 04:46 PM   #115
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As you keep reading, you'll see how she can still be so young. I was confuses at that point too.
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Old December 19 2011, 09:06 PM   #116
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How overall advanced is the Memory Omega tech versus the Federation's at the same time?
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Old December 20 2011, 02:44 PM   #117
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Those "few days" until I got the book turned into weeks. Slow shipping indeed. But it finally arrived, so once I'm done reading my latest non-Trek book, I'll dive in.
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Old December 20 2011, 04:54 PM   #118
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How overall advanced is the Memory Omega tech versus the Federation's at the same time?
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Old December 20 2011, 04:56 PM   #119
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Just hit Part II and I'm loving it so far.

Tell me we're getting another one of these in the next 12 months...
Finished Rise Like Lions well into the early hours this morning. (Couldn't put it down last night)

I thought it was a great follow-up to the previous MU stories and ripe with potential for further exploration. Although I'd like to see more of how Memory Omega developed/acquired most of their tech. (Especially how exactly they perfected Genesis Tech and potentially how that relates to the Mirror Shedai and their equivalent of the Taurus Meta-Genome.

Hope this one sells well enough to garner further work in the mirror universe.
Have you read Sorrows of Empire and the Mirror Vangaurd story becuase I believe that about covers it.
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Old December 21 2011, 10:55 PM   #120
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I just got a B&N gift card as a "Solstice" (she stopped celebrating Christmas, but still exchanges gifts) present, and this was one of my first purchases.
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