So why is Worf so mad at K'Ehleyr?

Worf'sParmach · November 14 2011, 11:39 PM

The avatar contest got me wondering... as soon as Worf sees K'Ehleyr in "The Emmisary" it's clear that he is really pissed off at her. Is there ever any explanation as to why? Any good speculation at least?

7thsealord · November 15 2011, 01:54 AM

Klingons are weird.

Noting in another episode (forget the title), Worf's (then unknown) brother visited the Enterprise. By Human standards, he was curt verging on downright rude to most of the crew. To Worf, by contrast, he was always downright friendly and showed great favouritism. Worf was deeply insulted by this - seeing the treatment of the rest of the crew as entirely correct and his 'special' treatment as major provocation.

Also, from what little we saw / heard of Klingon romance / mating, there seems to be more in common with WWF cage matches than the Human concepts of same. So, the really pissed off reaction could be a "normal" Klingon thing, don't ask me why.

Or, if Worf was reacting more humanly, perhaps the circumstances under which they had last parted left him with certain unresolved .... issues.

Dr. Crusher · November 15 2011, 04:56 AM

Wow--I hadn't noticed that. I am going to have to watch that again.

Mr. Laser Beam · November 15 2011, 07:23 AM

I think Worf was mad because she wouldn't take the oath - she wouldn't marry him.

Tiberius · November 15 2011, 07:28 AM

He was made because she didn't care much for the Klingon traditions which meant so much to him.

BlueStuff · November 15 2011, 09:03 AM

I thought that was one of Worf's happier faces.

indolover · November 18 2011, 07:32 PM

Perhaps just to emphasise a backstory. Obviously they did not part on good terms, and she did something that vexated Worf lol...

indolover · November 18 2011, 07:34 PM

7thsealord wrote:

Klingons are weird.

Noting in another episode (forget the title), Worf's (then unknown) brother visited the Enterprise. By Human standards, he was curt verging on downright rude to most of the crew. To Worf, by contrast, he was always downright friendly and showed great favouritism. Worf was deeply insulted by this - seeing the treatment of the rest of the crew as entirely correct and his 'special' treatment as major provocation.

Also, from what little we saw / heard of Klingon romance / mating, there seems to be more in common with WWF cage matches than the Human concepts of same. So, the really pissed off reaction could be a "normal" Klingon thing, don't ask me why.

Or, if Worf was reacting more humanly, perhaps the circumstances under which they had last parted left him with certain unresolved .... issues.

In that episode, Kurn was deliberately patronising Worf, to see if he was a true Klingon.

7thsealord · November 18 2011, 11:44 PM

indolover wrote:

7thsealord wrote:

Klingons are weird.

Noting in another episode (forget the title), Worf's (then unknown) brother visited the Enterprise. By Human standards, he was curt verging on downright rude to most of the crew. To Worf, by contrast, he was always downright friendly and showed great favouritism. Worf was deeply insulted by this - seeing the treatment of the rest of the crew as entirely correct and his 'special' treatment as major provocation.

Also, from what little we saw / heard of Klingon romance / mating, there seems to be more in common with WWF cage matches than the Human concepts of same. So, the really pissed off reaction could be a "normal" Klingon thing, don't ask me why.

Or, if Worf was reacting more humanly, perhaps the circumstances under which they had last parted left him with certain unresolved .... issues.

In that episode, Kurn was deliberately patronising Worf, to see if he was a true Klingon.

Yup.

Orac · November 19 2011, 05:47 AM

With a few exceptions during the first 4 or 5 seasons of TNG Worf was just generally pissed off at everyone, all the time.

Mojochi · November 24 2011, 08:09 AM

She had a bit of a disdain for Klingon values & traditions, unlike Worf, who was raised without those in his life, & therefore took them very much to heart. It seemed as though their relationship failed because of that issue, & he still suffered from some resentment when she 1st arrived on the Enterprise

7thsealord · November 24 2011, 11:52 AM

Mojochi wrote:

She had a bit of a disdain for Klingon values & traditions, unlike Worf, who was raised without those in his life, & therefore took them very much to heart. It seemed as though their relationship failed because of that issue, & he still suffered from some resentment when she 1st arrived on the Enterprise

A "bit" of a disdain?!?

November 14 2011, 11:39 PM	#1
Worf'sParmach Commander Location: Plano, TX	So why is Worf so mad at K'Ehleyr? The avatar contest got me wondering... as soon as Worf sees K'Ehleyr in "The Emmisary" it's clear that he is really pissed off at her. Is there ever any explanation as to why? Any good speculation at least? __________________ Obsessing over every detail in the Star Trek Universe since the 1990s Check out my fanfic (pretty please ): http://www.fanfiction.net/~ginomo

November 15 2011, 01:54 AM	#2
7thsealord Captain Location: Australia	Re: So why is Worf so mad at K'Ehleyr? Klingons are weird. Noting in another episode (forget the title), Worf's (then unknown) brother visited the Enterprise. By Human standards, he was curt verging on downright rude to most of the crew. To Worf, by contrast, he was always downright friendly and showed great favouritism. Worf was deeply insulted by this - seeing the treatment of the rest of the crew as entirely correct and his 'special' treatment as major provocation. Also, from what little we saw / heard of Klingon romance / mating, there seems to be more in common with WWF cage matches than the Human concepts of same. So, the really pissed off reaction could be a "normal" Klingon thing, don't ask me why. Or, if Worf was reacting more humanly, perhaps the circumstances under which they had last parted left him with certain unresolved .... issues.

November 15 2011, 04:56 AM	#3
Dr. Crusher Lieutenant Commander	Re: So why is Worf so mad at K'Ehleyr? Wow--I hadn't noticed that. I am going to have to watch that again.

November 15 2011, 07:23 AM	#4
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November 15 2011, 07:28 AM	#5
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November 15 2011, 09:03 AM	#6
BlueStuff Rear Admiral Location: Lafayette, IN	Re: So why is Worf so mad at K'Ehleyr? I thought that was one of Worf's happier faces.

November 18 2011, 07:32 PM	#7
indolover Fleet Captain	Re: So why is Worf so mad at K'Ehleyr? Perhaps just to emphasise a backstory. Obviously they did not part on good terms, and she did something that vexated Worf lol...

November 19 2011, 05:47 AM	#10
Orac Vice Admiral Location: Platonius	Re: So why is Worf so mad at K'Ehleyr? With a few exceptions during the first 4 or 5 seasons of TNG Worf was just generally pissed off at everyone, all the time. __________________ "Sorry, miss. I was giving myself an oil-job." - Robby the Robot (Forbidden Planet)

November 24 2011, 08:09 AM	#11
Mojochi Fleet Captain	Re: So why is Worf so mad at K'Ehleyr? She had a bit of a disdain for Klingon values & traditions, unlike Worf, who was raised without those in his life, & therefore took them very much to heart. It seemed as though their relationship failed because of that issue, & he still suffered from some resentment when she 1st arrived on the Enterprise