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Old November 4 2011, 05:37 PM   #76
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^ Olivia Williams was born in 1968. Assuming that the character in TLS is the same age as the actress who plats her, the Moira of FC could well have had a daughter 6years after the events of that movie. That's my logic anyhow. I hadn't really thought about who the father might be.
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Old November 4 2011, 05:52 PM   #77
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I was trying to imply that Charles could be the father.
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Old November 4 2011, 05:59 PM   #78
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^ I know but that doesn't suit my theory! lol
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Old November 4 2011, 06:00 PM   #79
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I caught this movie on TV once. Didn't care to sit through more than thirty minutes of it, and fully understood why there were a fair few lacklustre reviews at the time. I'm sure it's quite good in the eyes of superhero fans, though.
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Old November 4 2011, 08:11 PM   #80
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Deadpool's been decapitated and healed before in the comics, so the same could apply to Wade from XMO:W.
We do know from the scene after the credits that Weapon XI survived...
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Old November 4 2011, 09:49 PM   #81
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Regarding Xavier's uselessness in the films, this is sort of true of the comics themselves. Xavier has often been written out of the team (Starting with a death in the 1960s that was later retconned to be Changeling-AKA Morph), and I've lost count of how many times he's been 'cured' from his leg injuries, or re-injured. I think his biggest leave of abscence was during the 80s, when the team was largely led by Magneto and Storm when he was hanging out with space-wife Lilandra in space, but the status quo returned in the 90s. Even then, there were storylines where he left the team 'for good'.

I see him more as a mentor to the team these days, with Cyclops or Wolverine more the mutant leader.
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Old November 4 2011, 09:57 PM   #82
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I wonder if the Deadpool movie will feature Deadpool's "power" of breaking the fourth wall? It'd be interesting to see him stopping to talk to the camera like Ferris Bueler or Wayne Campbell sometimes but, at the same time, it would break any "realism" or dramatic impact in the movie.
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Old November 4 2011, 09:58 PM   #83
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^ As I understand it, the original script would have, but re-writes removed all the, well, clever, witty and original, bits like that.
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Old November 4 2011, 10:25 PM   #84
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I didn't concur with the critics who saw the movie as just a trailer for the franchise. It provided cinema audiences with a singularly intelligent, character-driven action blockbuster (showing the likes of the same year's flashy Mission Impossible 2 how to do it) and presented us with the most superheroey superhero movie in years, bringing iconic characters like Cyclops, Magneto and Wolverine to life. It had its flaws (It was as corny as heck, and Sabretooth and Storm were barely characters at all.) but the ending left me wanting to grab passers-by in the street and evangelise the movie. First one that I saw twice in the cinema. Haven't seen it in a few years, but going on memory I'd give it a solid four stars despite its flaws. It really was a breath of fresh air at the time.
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Old November 4 2011, 11:51 PM   #85
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Deadpool's been decapitated and healed before in the comics, so the same could apply to Wade from XMO:W.
We do know from the scene after the credits that Weapon XI survived...
Ah, thanks. I wasn't aware that there was an after-credits scene. I found it on YouTube.

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I wonder if the Deadpool movie will feature Deadpool's "power" of breaking the fourth wall?
You mean that thing we were already discussing on the previous page which you must have read since it prompted the side discussion about the Deadpool movie, but that you are now bringing up like it's the first time anyone has mentioned it (which you frequently do)?
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Old November 5 2011, 01:17 AM   #86
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The original Deadpool script that JacksonArcher reviewed here (should still be able to search for the original thread) did indeed have a fourth wall moment and addressed the "Deadpool" that was featured in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. As Captaindemotion mentioned this script has since been rewritten several times.
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Old November 5 2011, 01:20 AM   #87
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You mean that thing we were already discussing on the previous page which you must have read since it prompted the side discussion about the Deadpool movie, but that you are now bringing up like it's the first time anyone has mentioned it (which you frequently do)?
I must've over-looked that side discussion.
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Old November 5 2011, 02:16 AM   #88
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Here is JacksonArcher's excellently written review of the Reese/Wernick script. This is the movie that should have been made.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.ph...eadpool+script
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Old November 5 2011, 06:02 AM   #89
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Erik and Charles split up earlier in FC than X1 and certainly 3 indicate, Beast invented Cerebro in FC, whilst Charles notes in X1 that Erik helped build it. there's also something of a suggestion that Magneto's dorky helmet was created to block Xavier's telepathy, whilst FC shows it to be Shaw's anti-telepathy helmet that Erik first stole, then copied.

mutants are also clearly a new phenomenon in X1 (witness the discussion of mutants being on the agenda for the UN summit) compared to them having been around for years in FC in 1962!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but in the first film Xavier says he met Magneto when he was 17. In First Class, at least according to the credits, Xavier was 24.

Xavier also says that Jean and Scott were "among his first students".

I am not bothered much by the inconsistencies. I consider both the X-men prequels as existing in their own continuity.
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Old November 5 2011, 04:39 PM   #90
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but in the first film Xavier says he met Magneto when he was 17. In First Class, at least according to the credits, Xavier was 24.

Xavier also says that Jean and Scott were "among his first students".
I guess that makes him a fibber.
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