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Old October 20 2011, 01:06 AM   #1
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How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

I only ask because the pronunciation in the new Arkham City game is really throwing me off.

Batman Begins: "Rahz" (more or less)

Arkham City: "Raish"
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Old October 20 2011, 01:08 AM   #2
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

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I only ask because the pronunciation in the new Arkham City game is really throwing me off.

Batman Begins: "Rahz" (more or less)

Arkham City: "Raish"
I had thought it was Raish.
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Old October 20 2011, 01:09 AM   #3
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

I admit I am not super familiar with the character. "Raish" just sounds odd to me.
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Old October 20 2011, 01:13 AM   #4
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

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I admit I am not super familiar with the character. "Raish" just sounds odd to me.
Throughout the Animated Series it was pronounced "raish al gool". After that it sounded stranger to me when it was pronounced "rahz" in Begins. Only the writer that created the character for the comics can be sure of the pronunciation.
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Old October 20 2011, 01:13 AM   #5
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

The same way as in Batman Begins, surely - Rahz Al Ghoul. I suppose there's the question of what the pronunciation would have sounded like when he first adopted the name, of course.
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Old October 20 2011, 01:15 AM   #6
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

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I admit I am not super familiar with the character. "Raish" just sounds odd to me.
Throughout the Animated Series it was pronounced "raish al gool". After that it sounded stranger to me when it was pronounced "rahz" in Begins. Only the writer that created the character for the comics can be sure of the pronunciation.
See, I loved the Animated Series, but I can't for the life of me even remember Ra's being in it! I need to watch that show again! I'm so behind on my Batman lore.
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Old October 20 2011, 01:16 AM   #7
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

Raish I believe is the actual correct way...at least I believe that this is what Bruce Timm and Paul Dini have stated. Nolan and Goyer went the other way which is the only way that specific pronunciation has been shown. Paul Dini wrote the script for "Batman: Arkham City" so this is why it is this way in the video game. I much prefer this way myself.
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Old October 20 2011, 01:25 AM   #8
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

I read once that the different pronunciations represent different regional dialects of Arabic. Strictly speaking, in standard Arabic pronunciation, it would be pretty much like "rahss," but with a slightly rolled R and a glottal stop after the vowel.

I can't find the thread about the regional dialects, but here's an interesting one I did find:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/.../t-322011.html
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Old October 20 2011, 01:44 AM   #9
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

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I admit I am not super familiar with the character. "Raish" just sounds odd to me.
Throughout the Animated Series it was pronounced "raish al gool". After that it sounded stranger to me when it was pronounced "rahz" in Begins. Only the writer that created the character for the comics can be sure of the pronunciation.
See, I loved the Animated Series, but I can't for the life of me even remember Ra's being in it! I need to watch that show again! I'm so behind on my Batman lore.
Look for the eps, "Showdown", "Avatar", "The Demon's Quest" and "Off-Balance." (According to the IMDB entry of David Warner, who voiced him...)
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Old October 20 2011, 01:52 AM   #10
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Only the writer that created the character for the comics can be sure of the pronunciation.
So, has anybody asked Denny O'Neill?
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Old October 20 2011, 01:53 AM   #11
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Look for the eps, "Showdown", "Avatar", "The Demon's Quest" and "Off-Balance." (According to the IMDB entry of David Warner, who voiced him...)
But those are listed in reverse order, as IMDb tends to do. Ra's also appeared in the Superman: TAS episode "The Demon Reborn" and the Batman Beyond episode "Out of the Past."
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Old October 20 2011, 01:58 AM   #12
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

Not obviously directly from the man himself but it's good enough for me.

http://www.comicscommunity.com/board...=1079&expand=1
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Old October 20 2011, 02:03 AM   #13
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Look for the eps, "Showdown", "Avatar", "The Demon's Quest" and "Off-Balance." (According to the IMDB entry of David Warner, who voiced him...)
But those are listed in reverse order, as IMDb tends to do. Ra's also appeared in the Superman: TAS episode "The Demon Reborn" and the Batman Beyond episode "Out of the Past."
The first thing that came to mind when I entered this thread was a scene from "Out of The Past."

Talia starts to speak in her father's voice;

MCGINNIS: "Geez, lady! You're creepin' me out!

WAYNE: "You? She kissed me..."
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Old October 20 2011, 02:34 AM   #14
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Re: How do you pronounce Ra's al Ghul?

My basic Batman rule: The Animated Series tumps all. They called him 'Raish' so that's what I go by.


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(According to the IMDB entry of David Warner, who voiced him...)
I hadn't seen Star Trek V for many, many years. I watched it again recently and when Warner started talking I was like, holy ****!
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Old October 20 2011, 04:35 AM   #15
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Not obviously directly from the man himself but it's good enough for me.

http://www.comicscommunity.com/board...=1079&expand=1
For those too lazy to click the link, the creator's wife says that it's definitely pronounced "Raysh".
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