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Old October 21 2011, 10:11 PM   #76
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

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Adama will be played by some old guy, but the rest of the cast is going to need to skew hot & young. Lance Reddick is no box office draw.


I can actually see that being the real level of consideration.

"Look, I don't care. Just bring me some old guy who looks prestigious, like Lorne Green, only not dead. Now let's get some uber hotties in this thing!"
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Old October 21 2011, 10:58 PM   #77
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I'm sure most if not all of them lend themselves to being filmed in some way. I was talking about the way this BSG movie is likely to end up: like Transformers.
Neither Singer nor Orloff had anthing to do with Michael Bay's Transformers. So it has less chance of being Transformers than, say, a film written by the screenwriters of Transformers - which is exactly what J.J. Abrams' Star Trek is, and one of the reasons I had very low expectations for it.

Nobody should get their hopes up about any genuflections. nuBSG will be roundly ignored.
Normally I'd agree, but they've specifically said otherwise. So clearly at this point in the production they intend some kind of connection to Ron Moore's program.

Lance Reddick for Tigh?
Adama will be played by some old guy, but the rest of the cast is going to need to skew hot & young. Lance Reddick is no box office draw.
Colonel Tigh is a supporting character. Supporting characters are often played by character actors.
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Old October 22 2011, 12:48 AM   #78
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

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It could be a first Cylon war movie. Or maybe it's a remake but in the sense of "all this has happened before" and it's the next cycle, or something. Or maybe he just means it will be very different from both series so as to not step on any toes, but just it's own thing.
My God that was exactly my intepretation as well, right down to 'the next cycle' in the neverending story. In fact I wondered once whether or not TOS BSG could have been just that.
Perhaps TOS could be a sequel to nuBSG (obviously not the reverse, because of the time differential).

Meaning: After the events of nuBSG, the Cylons went back and rebuilt the colonies - repopulated them, rebuilt all the cities, everything. So much time has gone by that these new colonists literally forgot that they are Cylons and believe they are human; the events of TOS are a result of this. So in that sense, every BSG-TOS character is a humanoid Cylon.
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Old October 22 2011, 12:59 AM   #79
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

If Orloff and Singer are serious about connecting this new BSG project to RDM's, the most organic way to do so would be, as someone else suggested up-thread, to do the story in reverse. IOW, start the story out on Earth, and then spread it out so that the survivors are looking for the colonies.

On a semi-related note, I'm wondering if there's any possible way that Singer and Orloff could make Edward James Olmos' personal opinion a reality by making the BSG universe - as imagined by RDM - tied in with the universe of Blade Runner.
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Old October 22 2011, 01:17 AM   #80
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Adama will be played by some old guy, but the rest of the cast is going to need to skew hot & young. Lance Reddick is no box office draw.
Tigh at least should be played by an actor of approximate age to Adama. Both the original and nuBSG established Adama and Tigh as old friends going back many years. It would be very odd if this one didn't follow suit.
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Old October 22 2011, 01:46 AM   #81
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

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If Orloff and Singer are serious about connecting this new BSG project to RDM's, the most organic way to do so would be, as someone else suggested up-thread, to do the story in reverse. IOW, start the story out on Earth, and then spread it out so that the survivors are looking for the colonies.
and also do this:



On a semi-related note, I'm wondering if there's any possible way that Singer and Orloff could make Edward James Olmos' personal opinion a reality by making the BSG universe - as imagined by RDM - tied in with the universe of Blade Runner.
EJO says that? Wow.
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Old October 22 2011, 03:03 AM   #82
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EJO says that? Wow.
Yep. He's talked in the past about how he told RDM that he was only interested in doing BSG if the tone of the project mirrored that of Blade Runner. He's also said the following with regards to BSG and BR:
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If you take the entire trip and you get to the end and you see the last scene, all you have to do is put in Blade Runner a few years later and you've got a complete story! [Laughs] Gaff is a direct descendant of Admiral Adama, and he even looks like him! I can't even tell you how uncanny that is.
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Old October 22 2011, 03:06 AM   #83
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Good thing Adama didn't *talk* like Gaff.
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Old October 22 2011, 03:09 AM   #84
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EJO's also said this on the subject:
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All you have to do is put in Blade Runner after it finishes and it's 2019. The direct descendant of Adama is Gaff. It's true! They even look alike! It just happened that that was destiny. Something that was made in 1980, that was relatively hated when it came out then became beloved to the point of becoming a classic and is arguably now known as the number one science fiction movie of all time. Here we are thirty years later and all of the sudden a television show comes out and goes into that world of real drama. Inside a futuristic template and it so happens that I play one of the characters in this program. The connection is uncanny! Of course Ron's (Moore) going to say "no, I wasn't even thinking of it," and he wasn't thinking lets connect to this Blade Runner. He wanted to stand alone with his work but it gave both pieces an unbelievable connection! The genetic structure of Gaff and Adama. Gaff Adama!
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Old October 22 2011, 03:25 AM   #85
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Even as a big fan of RDM's take, now I'm slightly less onboard with this. I guess I could see a First Cylon War situation being doable, but sometimes I think it's fine to just have something stand on it's own.

Of course, all BSG products can fit together under the "all this has happened before and will happen again" banner, but I don't want to see them forcing something that shouldn't be forced.

Really, they tied nuBSG in with oldBSG through some visual stylistic things - mainly whenever they'd recreate events from the first Cylon War they'd use oldBSG designs or variations of same. People liked that, in the main, although there was really no logical way to make the continuities mesh in that time-frame. So if something similar is done with the movie I'm sure folks will appreciate it, chuckle and move on.
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Old October 22 2011, 03:43 AM   #86
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

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If Orloff and Singer are serious about connecting this new BSG project to RDM's, the most organic way to do so would be, as someone else suggested up-thread, to do the story in reverse. IOW, start the story out on Earth, and then spread it out so that the survivors are looking for the colonies.

On a semi-related note, I'm wondering if there's any possible way that Singer and Orloff could make Edward James Olmos' personal opinion a reality by making the BSG universe - as imagined by RDM - tied in with the universe of Blade Runner.

I'm thinking the people making new Blade Runner movies might have a thought on that or three... so very unlikely to happen.
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Old October 22 2011, 04:21 AM   #87
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

Ummms, I haven't been to this board in some time but the Aint It Cool story re: the Bryan Singer thing caught my eye. Can anyone confirm Blood & Chrome is pretty much frakked?
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Old October 22 2011, 08:39 AM   #88
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Experiencing Superman Returns and then First Class under Singer's watch and how impossibly dark BSG would be in a movie setting, I am not so sure this movie will be franchise material for Universal which is what they are obviously gunning for.
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Old October 22 2011, 12:32 PM   #89
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

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EJO's also said this on the subject:
Edward James Olmos wrote:
All you have to do is put in Blade Runner after it finishes and it's 2019. The direct descendant of Adama is Gaff. It's true! They even look alike! It just happened that that was destiny. Something that was made in 1980, that was relatively hated when it came out then became beloved to the point of becoming a classic and is arguably now known as the number one science fiction movie of all time. Here we are thirty years later and all of the sudden a television show comes out and goes into that world of real drama. Inside a futuristic template and it so happens that I play one of the characters in this program. The connection is uncanny! Of course Ron's (Moore) going to say "no, I wasn't even thinking of it," and he wasn't thinking lets connect to this Blade Runner. He wanted to stand alone with his work but it gave both pieces an unbelievable connection! The genetic structure of Gaff and Adama. Gaff Adama!
He's obviously joking.
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EJO's also said this on the subject:
Edward James Olmos wrote:
All you have to do is put in Blade Runner after it finishes and it's 2019. The direct descendant of Adama is Gaff. It's true! They even look alike! It just happened that that was destiny. Something that was made in 1980, that was relatively hated when it came out then became beloved to the point of becoming a classic and is arguably now known as the number one science fiction movie of all time. Here we are thirty years later and all of the sudden a television show comes out and goes into that world of real drama. Inside a futuristic template and it so happens that I play one of the characters in this program. The connection is uncanny! Of course Ron's (Moore) going to say "no, I wasn't even thinking of it," and he wasn't thinking lets connect to this Blade Runner. He wanted to stand alone with his work but it gave both pieces an unbelievable connection! The genetic structure of Gaff and Adama. Gaff Adama!
He's obviously joking.
Im sure he said that with a smile, but considering what both entities were like its far from ridiculous to believe something like that. NuBSG and Blade Runner are very much companion pieces (although if Caprica had carried on, I think that would have perhaps moved more toward Blade Runner with Rogue cylons and what have you).
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