Has there ever been a Kryptonian Green Lantern?

[Anwar]

Same with Magic. It's a nebulous thing that defies logic, physics and reality. There's no reason it SHOULDN'T affect Superman.

[Admiral_Young]

I'm wondering if the writers of the time were trying to play around with a literal science vs magic thing when they came up with this weakness.

[Vanyel]

Anwar wrote:

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Same with Magic. It's a nebulous thing that defies logic, physics and reality. There's no reason it SHOULDN'T affect Superman.

That about sums it up. I would also guess that the types of magic that can effect Superman would have to be big feats of magics. Throwing boulders at him wouldn't be a problem, however a direct hit with (for argument's sake only) "Avada Kedavra" and he's dead.

[Nerys Myk]

As opposed to hitting him with a 45 record of Abracadabra by the Steve Miller Band.

[Vanyel]

Zombie Cheerleader wrote:

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As opposed to hitting him with a 45 record of Abracadabra by the Steve Miller Band.

That would get the song stuck in his head, like it's now stuck in mine tyvm.

[Nerys Myk]

My work here is done.

[Vanyel]

@zombie cheerleader: Avada Kedavra!

[Guy Gardener]

If Superman's vulnerability to magic is psychological, Just like the manunters vulnerability to fire (sometimes), how would he stand up to some one pretending to be a magician like Ardacarba?

[Myasishchev]

I dunno. One would think it would really be magic unless the practioner believed in it themselves. Otherwise it's just sleight of hand. Like, Superman can probably kick David Copperfield's ass.

(Do you think there's a David Copperfield in the DCU? I feel bad for the traditionally talented magician in that universe. Zatanna has actual magic powers. Like, it's so on the nose it's almost obnoxious. It's like Batman running a Gotham Caverns attraction or Green Arrow setting up a rennfaire. But you know, forget the fact that David Blaine can't compete, and just sit there and imagine Jesus Christ returning from Heaven and performing a few free miracles, and then setting up an "illusionist" show and charging you $5 a head for it instead of doing useful shit like materializing happiness by speaking its name backwards. You don't have to imagine it. You could read the last hundred, terrible pages of Stranger in a Strange Land. And it was just as boring and off-putting there as when Zatanna with her God Mode Sue powers gets up on stage. But at least Valentine had a master plan. At least in The Prestige it's implied that Hugh Jackman is an asshole for using the most amazing invention of all time to pull pennies out the pockets of punters. At least Zatara had the decency to get immolated by the Nothing. Zatanna: terrible person (but nice gams).)

P.S.Man, I hate that song. But I like the Flash villain. That's a conundrum.

[Admiral_Young]

I think maybe the David Copperfield of the DCU was maybe Zatanna's dad...although in the 52 Verse Bruce claimed Zee is "unstable" in Justice League Dark. I kind of think that implies her skills aren't as refined as they were in the regular DCU.

[Myasishchev]

Actually, in the DCU, David Copperfield probably has actual magic powers. Think about it: David Copperfield grows up, and he's like, "I'm going to be a stage magician." But like you said, in the DCU, stage magician, like you said, means Zatara. A genie in human form.

So the path from neophyte to prominent entertainment leads through the shadowy zones, full of dark magic and ancient enemies as you fight to possess objects of power in the ruins of ancient [insert vanished culture] temples.

And once he gets there, he probably wonders why he's a guest spotting on Letterman when he could be fighting Starro. Then he realizes the Justice League does not receive a salary, let alone Claudia Schiffer.

[Admiral_Young]

^ That'd be cool.

[Myasishchev]

Then Tim Hunter shows up and ruins his career and marriage. This all happened in Books of Magic: Life During Wartime.

Maybe.

[Silvercrest]

Vanyel wrote:

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@zombie cheerleader: Avada Kedavra!

I don't think that works on zombies.

[Guy Gardener]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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I think maybe the David Copperfield of the DCU was maybe Zatanna's dad...although in the 52 Verse Bruce claimed Zee is "unstable" in Justice League Dark. I kind of think that implies her skills aren't as refined as they were in the regular DCU.

That's still in my too read pile.

But... They probably dated, so Bruce saying she's unstable has more to do with a four hour argument about leaving the toilet seat up rather than that she's on the verge of becoming evil.

"YOU CAN FLY! YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FALL IN!"