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Old March 15 2012, 10:14 PM   #1396
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TWD is doing it the right way so far. Start simple, drop a few very subtle foreshadowing hints along the way of future complications, and then reveal the complications only as needed, to keep things interesting and fresh.
They'd be smart too after this week's finale to produce several 'web - episodes' and drop them in month-by-month over the summer, perhaps with some more of the background of the initial few days of the Apocalypse. This would keep people titillated and interested until the fall.

The coming Facebook game was a great marketing ploy but I dunno about you, I'm tired of face book games.
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Old March 15 2012, 10:14 PM   #1397
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A great recent example would be the series 24 where the never ending terrorist threat became tiring for many people.
But 24 ended up being eight seasons long even though the ratings weren't that hot near the end. That would be pretty good length for the TWD.
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Old March 15 2012, 10:18 PM   #1398
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The coming Facebook game was a great marketing ploy but I dunno about you, I'm tired of face book games.
Until you posted this, I didn't even realize a Facebook game was coming. Now that I've looked it up, it doesn't look all that appealing anyway. I'll just wait for the game Telltale is developing.
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Old March 15 2012, 10:21 PM   #1399
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But 24 ended up being eight seasons long even though the ratings weren't that hot near the end. That would be pretty good length for the TWD.
That's very true. I'm not sure if a zombie Apocalypse can hold as much interest for that long as evolving terror plots did.

Also, Andrew Lincoln as Rick ain't no Kiefer Sutherland as Jack.
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Old March 15 2012, 10:41 PM   #1400
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One thing that was odd, is that Randall was a fast Zombie, most of the Zombies are the slow lumbering types, though on occasion we have seen faster Zombies here and there. I wonder if dying by Zombie results in the slow Zombies and dying otherwise results in faster Zombies (or is that just a case of the Zombies move at the speed of Plot?)
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Old March 15 2012, 10:46 PM   #1401
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The one downer would be if the virus will eventually turn them into zombies while still living, without warning, because there's no defense against that. And I think that's the case, given the way Shane was depicted in the last episode. But they have no reason to know that yet, and that shoe won't drop till sometime next season at the earliest.
Shane was depicted like Shane: a short tempered, emotionally off-kilter, overly confident, shoot first ask questions later sort of guy. He has never been especially cunning so rushing into his half-baked plan when he spotted an opportunity(no matter how bad) is perfectly in character. I was able to guess his entire plot pretty much moment for moment after the preview at the end of the previous episode. They were very human actions from a very human character driven to extremes. From my perspective, it was always the foregone conclusion that Shane was going to make a move like this and would have to be put down.
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Old March 15 2012, 10:48 PM   #1402
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One thing that was odd, is that Randall was a fast Zombie, most of the Zombies are the slow lumbering types, though on occasion we have seen faster Zombies here and there. I wonder if dying by Zombie results in the slow Zombies and dying otherwise results in faster Zombies (or is that just a case of the Zombies move at the speed of Plot?)
It would make some kind of sense that newer zombies would be able to move faster than ones that had been shambling around from the start, with bits seizing up or falling off. And fresh meat does seem to be a big motivator for them.
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Old March 16 2012, 12:21 AM   #1403
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One thing that was odd, is that Randall was a fast Zombie, most of the Zombies are the slow lumbering types, though on occasion we have seen faster Zombies here and there. I wonder if dying by Zombie results in the slow Zombies and dying otherwise results in faster Zombies (or is that just a case of the Zombies move at the speed of Plot?)
It would make some kind of sense that newer zombies would be able to move faster than ones that had been shambling around from the start, with bits seizing up or falling off. And fresh meat does seem to be a big motivator for them.
I think that zombies can get some rudimentary nutrition/water from eating flesh. Otherwise they just decay and desiccate like a normal corpse. The reactivation of the brain stem prevents rigor mortis but the lack of the sensation of pain and their lack of a drive to self preserve means that the walkers would do nothing to avoid injury. So every cut, every broken bone, every minute exposed to the elements should eventually take their toll.

Once most of the living have died off or secured themselves in safe zones it should only be a matter of time until the plague ends of its own accord (as long as people remember the 'everyone is infected' rule).
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Old March 16 2012, 12:47 AM   #1404
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If The Walking Dead turns into another Battlestar Galactica I'll be done with TV for good.
Well, I'd certainly be done with Walking Dead if that happened....
I worry more about it turning into Dallas.

In the last episode, Rick wakes up from the coma he has been in for months and discovers Patrick Duffy is his doctor.

Dun-dun-DUN!!!
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Old March 16 2012, 12:49 AM   #1405
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One thing that was odd, is that Randall was a fast Zombie, most of the Zombies are the slow lumbering types, though on occasion we have seen faster Zombies here and there. I wonder if dying by Zombie results in the slow Zombies and dying otherwise results in faster Zombies (or is that just a case of the Zombies move at the speed of Plot?)
He didn't appear to limp, either, even though he's not anywhere near recovered from his leg injury. I wasn't even 100% sure that was Randall at first.
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Old March 16 2012, 02:42 AM   #1406
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One thing that was odd, is that Randall was a fast Zombie, most of the Zombies are the slow lumbering types, though on occasion we have seen faster Zombies here and there. I wonder if dying by Zombie results in the slow Zombies and dying otherwise results in faster Zombies (or is that just a case of the Zombies move at the speed of Plot?)
I'm not sure about the rest of your thoughts, but I can address the parenthetical question. Robert Kirkman has confirmed that the writing and production team does have rules set out related to zombie speed, so they have made an effort not to let it simply be "speed of plot."
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Old March 16 2012, 02:50 AM   #1407
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The fact is, if Rick did know that Shane was gonna come back, then it strains credibility that he'd suddenly forget ...
Has anyone on the show turned that quickly in front of Rick? IIRC, everyone that he's seen turn did so in a matter of hours (or even days), not minutes.

Unless the CDC guy specifically told Rick "everyone who dies comes back and sometimes in seconds", Rick could easily assume he had at least a few more minutes to finish off Shane.

Furthermore, sometimes people don't react to things immediately, especially in a stressful situation.
The CDC guy told Rick in open dialogue that reanimation can occur anywhere between 3 minutes and 8 hours of death. Even if Rick thought he had a few minutes to deal with Shane coming back, it still strains credibility that someone who just killed his best friend to protect himself and his family would suddenly become so careless.
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There's a difference between being careless and being in shock...
Yep. And its common for the fear and anxiety of a life threatening situation to make time seem like it's moving at a slower pace or as if it has come to a halt.
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Old March 16 2012, 04:27 AM   #1408
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Exactly, The G Man.

Also, Rick didn't expect Carl to show up at that exact moment of shock and grief. It jumbled his thoughts for a little while. It's not so preposterous. Andrew Lincoln as Rick isn't Kiefer Sutherland as Jack, but he's not meant to be Kiefer Sutherland as Jack.
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Old March 16 2012, 06:30 AM   #1409
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If The Walking Dead turns into another Battlestar Galactica I'll be done with TV for good.
Well, I'd certainly be done with Walking Dead if that happened....
I worry more about it turning into Dallas.

In the last episode, Rick wakes up from the coma he has been in for months and discovers Patrick Duffy is his doctor.

Dun-dun-DUN!!!
Hmm. Too bad Suzanne Pleshette is no longer with us.
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