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Old November 30 2011, 05:39 AM   #646
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^ geez...

I do highly doubt that the few chickens they tossed in from time to time would sustain all of those walkers. Even though they are dead, per se, they must still need some nourishment to continue to stumble around. I've always wondered why walkers don't turn on one another. Have we seen that in this show? They always just seem to attack the living.

Also why are some people turned into walkers and others ripped to shreds? Why did Sophia only have the one bite? She was small enough that even one walker should have ripped her open. Unless she managed to stumble away somehow....

So many questions!
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Old November 30 2011, 09:59 AM   #647
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^ geez...

I do highly doubt that the few chickens they tossed in from time to time would sustain all of those walkers. Even though they are dead, per se, they must still need some nourishment to continue to stumble around. I've always wondered why walkers don't turn on one another. Have we seen that in this show? They always just seem to attack the living.

Also why are some people turned into walkers and others ripped to shreds? Why did Sophia only have the one bite? She was small enough that even one walker should have ripped her open. Unless she managed to stumble away somehow....

So many questions!
Traditionally, zombies gain nothing at all from eating. TWD zombies\seem to be based on the Romero universe, in which the only part of the zombie which has any life at all is the brain- Jenner also confirmed this to be the case at the CDC. There's actually a scene in Day Of The Dead where a scientist completely removes a zombie's digestive system and internal organs and it continues to function and seek food.

Not to mention the amount of functioning zombie heads we've seen with no body at all. The brain is semi alive- anything attached to it can move etc but is dead.

Any whether you become a walker or are devoured depends on whether you survive the initial attack. If you are bitten you will get a nasty infection and die, obviously death means reanimation. If you are completely cornered or overwhelmed then the zombies will completely devour you unless distracted by another living screaming person.

For all we know Sophia could've slipped, fell and died from internal injuries, without ever encountering a zombie.
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Old November 30 2011, 10:45 AM   #648
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^^ But it looked like she had a bite on her neck.

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Would you want to see what happened to Sophia? I think I would. They could use one of those flashbacks they include at the beginning of episodes to show us what occurred.

I don't know about everyone else, but I would be interested in seeing it happen.
Yeah, I'd like to see that. It will be horrible to watch, but her story should be told.
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Old November 30 2011, 12:12 PM   #649
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I kinda suspected she was in the barn, but I was still hoping she was out there somewhere, possibly held captive by some group of scavengers, or hell, even Daryl's brother.

And y'know, the more I think about it, the more I can sympathize with Herschell. Its one thing to deal with random walkers, but facing the notion of having to put down people you knew and cared about is a whole different story. I'm guessing it was easier to just stash them in the barn for their own, and his families safety and just try not to think about it seemed like an easier solution.
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Old November 30 2011, 03:56 PM   #650
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I kinda suspected she was in the barn, but I was still hoping she was out there somewhere, possibly held captive by some group of scavengers, or hell, even Daryl's brother.

And y'know, the more I think about it, the more I can sympathize with Herschell. Its one thing to deal with random walkers, but facing the notion of having to put down people you knew and cared about is a whole different story. I'm guessing it was easier to just stash them in the barn for their own, and his families safety and just try not to think about it seemed like an easier solution.
And how soon did we forget about organ in the first season? He had the same problem, just one level down. He certainly was not willing to kill his wife's body, despite having the tool to do so.

Hershel's hope for a cure takes that compassion (misguided, apparently) to just the next level.
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Old November 30 2011, 10:17 PM   #651
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I kinda suspected she was in the barn, but I was still hoping she was out there somewhere, possibly held captive by some group of scavengers, or hell, even Daryl's brother.

And y'know, the more I think about it, the more I can sympathize with Herschell. Its one thing to deal with random walkers, but facing the notion of having to put down people you knew and cared about is a whole different story. I'm guessing it was easier to just stash them in the barn for their own, and his families safety and just try not to think about it seemed like an easier solution.
I was hoping the "obviousness" of Sophia being in the barn (isn't that the first thing everyone would suspect after Glenn made the discovery? The characters should have wondered, too) was misdirection leading to a truly surprising outcome that nobody could guess.

I want to know whether Herschell's theories are based on wishful thinking and delusion, or if he has any reason to believe he may be onto something. The fact that he was shown studying a (presumably medical) book makes me wonder.
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Old November 30 2011, 10:31 PM   #652
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Herschel was delusional when it came to the zombies. Shane gave good evidence to that.

Country veterinarian vs CDC? no contest.
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Old November 30 2011, 10:32 PM   #653
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Herschel isn't on to anything. Whether he's done any lab research is still in question (and it's unlikely he'd want to experiment on the barn walkers before now). But it's obvious he has no idea how they function. We've already agreed that he hasn't seen what things are like "out there" and probably has never seen a walker with the guts hanging out and so on -- but that means he has no experience with them. He didn't even know the creatures could survive multiple shots to the body.
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Old November 30 2011, 10:51 PM   #654
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The fact that he was shown studying a (presumably medical) book makes me wonder.
I think it more likely Herschel was reading a Bible.
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Old November 30 2011, 11:43 PM   #655
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^^ That's exactly what I assumed.
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Old December 1 2011, 03:52 AM   #656
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No assumption necessary. The page we can see is titled "LUKE 8"
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Old December 1 2011, 04:15 AM   #657
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To be fair, St. Luke DID have a several hospitals named after him.
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Old December 1 2011, 04:37 AM   #658
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No assumption necessary. The page we can see is titled "LUKE 8"
So...definitely a Medical Journal then
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Old December 1 2011, 04:49 AM   #659
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Gospel of Luke, Chapter 8, huh? I wonder what he was reading (i.e., that might relate to the story)? Exorcising the Gerasenes demonic is there, for example.
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Old December 1 2011, 07:08 AM   #660
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I was hoping the "obviousness" of Sophia being in the barn (isn't that the first thing everyone would suspect after Glenn made the discovery? The characters should have wondered, too) was misdirection leading to a truly surprising outcome that nobody could guess.
I didn't see it coming because I just saw the barn as a ticking time bomb on its own and I didn't think Herschel had been collecting people he didn't know. In retrospect maybe I should've but it caught me by surprise.
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