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Old November 28 2011, 06:28 AM   #556
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Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

Given that a comic book characters don't have to age, but actors do, I wonder how the producers plan to deal with Carl. If the show is supposed to have taken place over the space of a few weeks (to date) since Rick woke up, but it takes "x" years to film all the episodes, they're either going to have to recast him or write him off.

That was part of why Walt was written off "Lost" as I recall.
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Old November 28 2011, 07:07 AM   #557
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^Yeah, Carl already looks about a foot taller than last season.
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Old November 28 2011, 07:13 AM   #558
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I thought that it was a very strong finish to what was a rather slow first half of the season.
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Old November 28 2011, 08:42 AM   #559
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It's interesting how much of Rick's personality in the comics is getting transferred to Shane in the TV series.
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Old November 28 2011, 10:31 AM   #560
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Oh, man, I dread watching this now.
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Old November 28 2011, 02:14 PM   #561
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See I don't understand this opinion. Doesn't mean you're not entitled to it but I still don't get it.
I agree. The acting is first rate and every show cannot be about shooting and killing zombies. Last night's episode was outstanding and it resolved a lot of the remaning issues, notably what happened to Sophia.

The teaser seemed to imply that Herschel is going to leave his farm for a while presumably in grief and anger.

The big surprise for me is how likable the Daryl character has become. I should have seen that coming. Bad guy turns into nice guy story arc.
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Old November 28 2011, 02:37 PM   #562
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The big surprise for me is how likable the Daryl character has become. I should have seen that coming. Bad guy turns into nice guy story arc.
I expect to see Daryl take a turn to the dark side. It seems the only thing that has been holding him together was the search for Sophia. Now that we've learned her fate, I can see him coming apart.
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Old November 28 2011, 04:20 PM   #563
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It's interesting how much of Rick's personality in the comics is getting transferred to Shane in the TV series.
I don't really see that. Some of his actions are, like wanting to deal with the zombies in the barn, but I view Shane was rather unhinged,
Rick didn't start really acting like this until the prison.

And even then, it was because his people were getting attacked. Shane just went off the handle for no reason. They had been there for a week and no one was injured. If someone was killed, I'm sure Rick would have been right there with Shane.
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Old November 28 2011, 05:00 PM   #564
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I figured she had to be in the barn. My mom even shouted "I knew it."

I was sad to see Rick having to shoot Sofia. I wonder if they will ever show what happened that led up to that point?

Shane is almost becoming too unhinged and villian-like. I can't see how they can have him continue on the show. Dale knows that Shane's cheese is starting to / has slid off his cracker.

I wonder how the show runners will do cast changes/losses? Boy is it going to be depressing if they all die at the end.
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Old November 28 2011, 05:27 PM   #565
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For the comic at least, which is around issue 100 of a planned 300 or so issue story, Robert Kirkman has that the only one who's safe is Rick (for the time being), since the comic is about his personal journey. And after Sophia's death, I think that it's safe to say that the TV show is taking a similar approach.
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Old November 28 2011, 06:56 PM   #566
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Shane is almost becoming too unhinged and villian-like. I can't see how they can have him continue on the show. Dale knows that Shane's cheese is starting to / has slid off his cracker.
I was having a friendly debate with someone about that. Actually, if zombies had taken over the world, if the infrastructure had collapsed, I think Shane's actions are completly reasonable.
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Old November 28 2011, 07:09 PM   #567
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[...] I think it's pretty clear to everyone now that Shane is definitely taking a ride on the Crazy Train.
Indeed, it would have to be pretty damn obvious after opening the barn up like that with everyone - even unarmed people - standing right there, though it fit in with the "point" that he was trying to make about fighting to defend yourself and your people. Still, as crazy as Shane is apparently becoming, he was the only one who was proactive in doing something about the walkers in the barn.

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I thought that Herschel was keeping her a secret but according to The Talking Dead, Otis snared her, put her in the barn and got killed before any discussion about a missing girl could take place.
That makes sense, and I have to say that I'm glad the intention wasn't that Herschel was keeping a young zombie girl in his barn a secret from the others (he obviously wouldn't have known her name even if he had been, but he would've had to suspect that it may have been Sophia). Herschel's mental state is undeniably damaged, but doing so would go beyond his belief that the zombies are simply people sick with a disease.

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Shane is almost becoming too unhinged and villian-like. I can't see how they can have him continue on the show. Dale knows that Shane's cheese is starting to / has slid off his cracker.
At this rate, Shane may soon present as much a threat to the group as the zombies do.
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Old November 28 2011, 07:11 PM   #568
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I figured she had to be in the barn. My mom even shouted "I knew it."
The show didn't leave too many other options by this point. That doofus on "Talking Dead" kept repeating that he never saw that coming; well, he's about the only one. I bet he was also surprised that Anakin turned into Darth Vader.

I was sad to see Rick having to shoot Sofia. I wonder if they will ever show what happened that led up to that point?
Note that Rick was able to bring himself to shoot Sofia when Shane couldn't. After Shane's speech about Rick not being suited for this kind of world, that says a lot. Maybe that will shut Shane up for a while, though I doubt it.

Who caught the segment of "Talking Dead" where they explained what happened to Sofia? Can we spoil that?

Edit: Okay, someone already posted it.

I thought Shane's demonstration was pretty good. How else do you prove that something isn't normally alive, except that it can't be normally killed? That got me thinking, though. Herschel may think the walkers can cured-- but apart from the fact that they're feral and unreasoning, there's also the fact that most of them have big gaping holes with stuff leaking out. Wounds that are beyond modern medicine. If he thinks those can be healed too, that's some serious denial.

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The big surprise for me is how likable the Daryl character has become. I should have seen that coming. Bad guy turns into nice guy story arc.
I expect to see Daryl take a turn to the dark side. It seems the only thing that has been holding him together was the search for Sophia. Now that we've learned her fate, I can see him coming apart.
I see that happening too. I only hope he doesn't totally go off the deep end. But that was already hinted at during the Merle "encounter".
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Old November 28 2011, 07:44 PM   #569
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Herschel was always in denial about the walkers (the comics parallel this). He'd somehow convinced himself, despite everything he'd seen and been told, that his wife and son could be made okay somehow. Maggie, his remaining living family who barely even speak, and every other zombie in the barn was being taken along for the ride.

This episode was the culmination of a loooot of setup, and was a very emotional climax for the whole half-season. However, I think everyone could agree that these seven episodes of story could have been told in four or five... I hope we don't have to go through that again.

How long has it actually been, time-wise, since the season started? I'm sure we coudl count the days? My wife and I think it's been a couple weeks since Carl was shot, but he's awful mobile for what's happened. Darryl too, for that matter.

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Old November 28 2011, 08:46 PM   #570
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At this point Shane may be more dangerous to the group than the zombies are . Sooner rather than later he's going to do violence towards one or more of the people he's traveling with. Rick or Dale better watch their backs.
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