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Old April 26 2011, 04:15 PM   #1
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Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

Okay guys and gals forward thinking...
Currently 3-D is a niche for theatrical FX and animated movies.
For TV there are some sports and about 3 cable/satellite linear channels and a couple of on-demand 3-D channels for niche programming. The thought of scripted dramas on TV in 3-D was just a thought a year ago.

Yesterday in the TV industry magazine Broadcasting & Cable there was an article about Primetime television dramas being in 3-D.
Here is what James Cameron said via Google cache:
Cameron: When we start to go to 3D for one-hour dramas and sitcoms and maybe unscripted hours, you won’t be doing two productions. For a three-camera show, you will have three 3D cameras. The 2D will be just a separate feed and probably a feed out of the same cut. It will be the same show offered in 2D and 3D.
Cameron: Yeah. Right now what people are struggling to do is figuring out how to pay for the delta, [the extra cost of] 3D production over 2D. But that wedge will sunset two or three years from now. Production is basically expensive anyway, and the additional cost of 3D is already relatively small.
Now we already know that Paramount wants Trek XII shot in 3-D. That's fine and good as it's theatrical movie distribution.

CBS Television is already looking into converting Star Trek older TV episodes into 3-D for further income from that older profitable property.


In 3 years from now Trek XIII will be in preproduction or else there will be development on the next Trek TV series. The TV landscape may have changed by then and Viacom (owner of CBS Television) may have 1 or 2 national 3-D channels. HBO and Showtime may have 3-D channels by then.

If the next Trek TV series were shot in 3-D then we are back at the question from this thread:
What channel should a new Trek TV series be on?


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Old April 26 2011, 06:22 PM   #2
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

Well there's a thought. If 3D TV really starts to take off - or broadcasters want to push it - that might be good news for the space opera genre in general. TV shows are too talk-oriented vs. action-oriented for 3D to make much sense. Solution: get more action-oriented genres on the tube.

CBS's demo is still wrong for Trek, tho. Also wrong for 3D. Old folks don't like change.
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Old April 26 2011, 07:55 PM   #3
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I don't think the adoption of 3D for television is going to come as quickly as it has for movies.
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Old April 26 2011, 08:55 PM   #4
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

3d gives me migraines.
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Old April 26 2011, 11:56 PM   #5
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

If the movie industry wants to sell all those 3D movies for home viewing, they've gotta start pushing 3D TV sales. And that means a market for the ever-more-desperate TV industry. Broadcast TV in particular is suffering, and they need something to come along to save their asses. Nothing else is on the horizon, that's for sure.

But here's the real reason the TV industry will latch onto 3D. Imagine 3D ads! Now 100% more obnoxious!
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Old April 28 2011, 04:13 PM   #6
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

John Noble, who plays Walter and Walternate on Fringe
was interviewed by The Hollywood Reporter about the next season of Fringe.
THR: What do you want to see the show tackle next season?

Noble: I don’t think we have the technology to do 3D. If it was viable, I think they would do it. That’s the sort of people they are.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...xplains-181486

It's this kind of thinking that will get the next Star Trek TV series possibly shot in 3-D in 3-5 years from now.
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Old May 1 2011, 08:09 PM   #7
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

Most TV shows aren't visual/action based enough to take good advantage of 3D like movies do. But when the TV biz wants to push 3D (so they have something new to sell to advertisers if nothing else), then 3D might spark more interest in visual/action based TV shows.

And in that way, 3D might be the thing that drags Star Trek back onto the small screen.
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Old May 10 2011, 08:07 PM   #8
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?
Unlikely. By the time another Trek TV series has been given the greenlight, this whole 3D fad will have blown over.

Heh heh. That might not be true at all, but I can hope can't I?
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Old May 12 2011, 03:09 PM   #9
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

Argus Skyhawk wrote: View Post
Unlikely. By the time another Trek TV series has been given the greenlight, this whole 3D fad will have blown over.

Heh heh. That might not be true at all, but I can hope can't I?
I'm hoping along with you! Take a look at this, it appears consumers are literally not buying it at this point either. Fingers crossed.
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Old May 12 2011, 04:10 PM   #10
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

LOKAI of CHERON wrote: View Post
Argus Skyhawk wrote: View Post
Unlikely. By the time another Trek TV series has been given the greenlight, this whole 3D fad will have blown over.

Heh heh. That might not be true at all, but I can hope can't I?
I'm hoping along with you! Take a look at this, it appears consumers are literally not buying it at this point either. Fingers crossed.
Of course they're not buying it...they (we, I) just bought a new HDTV a couple of years ago. Why shell out a couple of thousand dollars for limited programming?

Also, recession.
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Old May 12 2011, 08:39 PM   #11
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

Squiggy wrote: View Post
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Argus Skyhawk wrote: View Post
Unlikely. By the time another Trek TV series has been given the greenlight, this whole 3D fad will have blown over.

Heh heh. That might not be true at all, but I can hope can't I?
I'm hoping along with you! Take a look at this, it appears consumers are literally not buying it at this point either. Fingers crossed.
Of course they're not buying it...they (we, I) just bought a new HDTV a couple of years ago. Why shell out a couple of thousand dollars for limited programming?

Also, recession.
You're largely correct, although I do feel glasses, whether active or passive, are a major hurdle to be overcome by the CE manufacturers. From my own perspective, I would probably be viewed as a prime candidate for early adoption of this technology, being an obsessive home cinema enthusiast for many years. If and when completely autonomous (large scale) 3D displays become a reality and are practical in as much as you don't have to sit in a "sweet spot" to enjoy the full effect, my interest may be piqued.

But to be honest, I've found 3D to be both gimmicky and distracting. I've enjoyed Blu-ray titles such as Avatar and Tron Legacy at home way more than in the theatre. I have a lot of friends who are also AV enthusiasts who share my viewpoint.

I've been to a number showrooms to demo 3D televisions, and frankly, it's just horrible - the image looking “headache-inducingly” over processed and incredibly fake. For me, I wouldn't have a moments hesitation choosing a quality 2D display.
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Old June 16 2011, 04:49 AM   #12
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

As someone that's just helped finished 20 episodes of 3D shows for 3net, let you tell you right now - IT'S &^%$#@ TOUGH TO DEAL WITH!
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Old July 5 2011, 07:59 PM   #13
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CBS may be bringing 3D versions of its shows to a 24-hour cable network, and it has already demonstrated 2D-to-3D converted programming privately to several operators, according to industry sources familiar with the project.

The broadcast network is considering a strategy to gain distribution for the 3D channel through its retransmission-consent negotiations with cable, satellite and telco TV operators, according to one source.

However, another executive familiar with CBS's 3D tests said the network has not made a definitive decision on whether to move forward. "It is all very preliminary," this source said. "There are no solid plans to launch a network."
While nothing certain the fact that CBS owns star trek this would be an ideal place to launch a new trek series in 3-D say in 2016.
http://mobile.broadcastingcable.com/...et_Sources.php
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Old July 5 2011, 08:42 PM   #14
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

More likely we'll get CSI 3D.
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Old July 6 2011, 12:10 AM   #15
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Re: Could the next Trek TV series be shot in 3-D?

I love Mickey's PhilharMagic, and Honey, I Shrunk the Audience, and Toy Story Midway Mania, and MuppetVision, and the new-and-improved Star Tours.

I went out of my way to see Tron: Legacy in non-3D, which is pretty much what I do with any 3D theatrical film.

From which I think you can probably guess my opinion of where 3D films belong.

I'm just praying that the next ST TV series (assuming there is one) isn't in the Abramsverse.
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