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Old November 14 2011, 05:47 PM   #1
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Flags in "Space Seed"

I was watching "Space Seed" last night, and during the final scene where they did hearing for Khan, I noticed these flags in the room. Does anybody know what these flags are or where they are from?

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Old November 14 2011, 06:38 PM   #2
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Re: Flags in "Space Seed"

It would appear the flag on the left is that of Cuba (perhaps those were easily available to Desilu?), while the one on the right is a custom job with the Starfleet banana in the middle.

However, since so little of the Cuban flag is seen, we could just as well decide it's the classic UFP flag (the dark blue parts), with a white horizontal band below the central symbol to serve as background for some lettering, and with a separate red streamer attached to the pole...

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Old November 14 2011, 06:50 PM   #3
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Re: Flags in "Space Seed"

So is Castro is still alive in the 23rd century?
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Old November 14 2011, 07:00 PM   #4
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¡Que viva el líder maximo!
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Old November 14 2011, 07:11 PM   #5
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This was discused at http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=141519
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Old November 14 2011, 07:17 PM   #6
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So is Castro is still alive in the 23rd century?

No, but the embargo is still in force.
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Old November 15 2011, 01:01 AM   #7
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So is Castro is still alive in the 23rd century?

No, but the embargo is still in force.
You have to use McCoy's blackmarket contacts to buy Romulan Ale and Cuban cigars.
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Old November 15 2011, 02:38 AM   #8
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Old November 15 2011, 05:42 AM   #9
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Re: Flags in "Space Seed"

In the other thread there's a theory put forward that Theiss "stapled fabric together" to make the light blue flag, but looking at the screen grabs it's apparent that the trim is sewn to the blue fabric, not stapled. Maybe the yellow interior detail is stuck to it that way.
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Old November 15 2011, 05:54 AM   #10
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Well considering that one-half of the founding team of Desilu was born in Cuba it's likely there was at least one Cuban flag around there somewhere, even if he was gone from the company by then.
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Old November 15 2011, 11:52 PM   #11
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Old November 16 2011, 04:59 AM   #12
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Re: Flags in "Space Seed"

So, for what is presumably the UFP flag, we have this...



And for the Enterprise (maybe) it looks like we have this...



Look about right?
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Old November 16 2011, 11:40 AM   #13
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The golden symbol might basically also be the banana one that we see on the side pennants and at SB 11:

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...rtialhd302.jpg

In that case, we'd be seeing the lower limb of that design.

I guess the logical assumption, in-universe and regardless of what props were actually used, would be to have the dark blue be the UFP flag, with a special Starfleet Command stripe and a red streamer, and the light blue be the flag of the 1st Fleet (or whatever the sub-organization that uses the "delta shield" or "arrowhead" as its symbol in the TOS era). That's what a modern warship might have: a national flag modified to serve as a military one (I don't know if the US does any of that, but many other nations play with theirs that way), and a unit flag.

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