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View Poll Results: Grade 'Neither Here Nor There'
Fringe-tastic! 4 11.43%
Above Average 16 45.71%
Stuck Between Two Universes 11 31.43%
Below Average 3 8.57%
I Didn't Think Fringe Could Be This Bad 1 2.86%
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Old September 24 2011, 01:06 PM   #61
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Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers)

Peter is stuck in the TOS episode "the Tholian Web", and McCoy and Spock are going to have to work together to get him back!
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Old September 24 2011, 01:24 PM   #62
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And he'll appear to Asteroid when she's at home changing into her nightgown!


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Old September 24 2011, 02:05 PM   #63
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So until the Watcher uses his Radio Shack device to erase Peter from time*, both Peters did exist, and Walter did cross over to steal Alt-Peter (the one we've seen for the last three seasons), but fails to save him. So you still have the foundation intact for why the Walters distrust each other and all that, you just don't have Peter involved in anything past the kidnapping. At least that's my interpretation.
Plus it explains why Walter doesn't recognize adult Peter as well as Walter's "Sometimes people die twice." remark.
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Old September 24 2011, 02:07 PM   #64
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To review this episode, I'm gonna go with the title: 'Neither Here Nor There'

There is some interesting stuff, but the Peter-less universe didn't seem entirely convincing to me. I'm intigued but not exactly excited.
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Old September 24 2011, 02:28 PM   #65
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I was pretty bored during this.

Peter has had a much bigger impact on the outcome of both worlds (moreso in "ours" for long term effects) than they're portraying. So much of it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever with his absence.
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Old September 24 2011, 03:39 PM   #66
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So they have a room between universes that they can just walk into now?

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Old September 24 2011, 04:50 PM   #67
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Was the warehouse where Joe Flanigan got turned in to a irrus bug, I mean killed the same one stargate Atlantis used for a bit of the Genii home world?
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Old September 24 2011, 05:33 PM   #68
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I will say, I sort of think it was a mistake to include the first scene with Fauxlivia, given how the rest of the episode was structured. It was a good scene on its own, but the episode as a whole is more or less from Lincoln Lee's POV and builds up to his first encounter with the other side, personified by Fauxlivia; it would have been more effective if we hadn't seen her before that point.
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Old September 24 2011, 06:19 PM   #69
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If Peter is gone, why can't we get Charlie back? If time can be rewritten so that Oliva and Lincoln's original meeting did not happen...why not save Charlie and have both versions of Fringe Division have the same players.

Additionally...thatcwas a real waste of Joe Flannigan. One can only hope that there was more to it than what we saw.
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Old September 24 2011, 07:02 PM   #70
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Kirk Acevedo is a regular on the new Prime Suspect, so you won't be seeing much of him anymore (he said that contractually he could do maybe three or four episodes), assuming that show lasts.
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Old September 24 2011, 07:37 PM   #71
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(...), assuming that show lasts.
It probably won't: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51331
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Old September 24 2011, 10:03 PM   #72
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Additionally...that was a real waste of Joe Flannigan. One can only hope that there was more to it than what we saw.
I kind of expect him to turn up on the AltFringe team. Or at least have Lincoln have to interact with the alternate version of him at some point.
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Old September 24 2011, 10:24 PM   #73
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(...), assuming that show lasts.
It probably won't: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51331
Am I missing something here?
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Old September 24 2011, 10:58 PM   #74
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Most of the story emotional high points were about Olivia's feelings. I can't give a rat's ass about her feelings. Boring.

And erasing Peter as a shocker, then undoing the erasing so it has to be done again, is a really cheap way to resolve that.
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Old September 24 2011, 11:34 PM   #75
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Below average. Fringe is better than this. All this episode does is make me hope they kill off Olivia and let us keep FauxLivia instead.
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