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Old August 10 2012, 10:47 AM   #1
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Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

I've found that I'm completely bitter about television today. There are very few shows that I will "follow" --- particularly among science fiction epics, because it's more likely than not the network will bitch out and cancel them.

On the plane from Seoul to Atlanta, I watched 12 episodes of the first season of "V" -- a fun, cheesy science fiction about a deceptive reptillian race-- CANCELED.

Any good shows out there with conclusions worth checking out?
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Old August 10 2012, 10:54 AM   #2
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

If it bothers you this much, just wait for a new show to get an annoucement that it is getting a second season before you start watching. That's what I've starting doing with new Sci Fi shows. It has worked for the most part. Haven't really been burned by the networks in years.

Didn't see "V", but at least that got a second season!
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Old August 10 2012, 10:54 AM   #3
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

The last show I bothered to follow week-to-week was "Lost." There are a few shows that I watch when new seasons appear on Netflix (Doctor Who, How I Met Your Mother, Futurama), but all of those shows are at least 6 years old.

I don't even try to watch new shows anymore.
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Old August 10 2012, 11:03 AM   #4
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

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The last show I bothered to follow week-to-week was "Lost." There are a few shows that I watch when new seasons appear on Netflix (Doctor Who, How I Met Your Mother, Futurama), but all of those shows are at least 6 years old.

I don't even try to watch new shows anymore.
The problem is that all new shows have to get good ratings right from the start. It's sink or swim these days.

In the past, shows that have gotten small ratings were allowed to stick around until it became better. Networks really don't do that anymore.

It is double hard for Sci Fi shows to do well, since they already have niche audiences.
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Old August 10 2012, 11:06 AM   #5
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

I'm aware of the problem, but I also know my viewership is not going to help a damn thing. I have neither the time nor the desire to watch new shows "just in case" I like them. I'll wait for something to establish itself as a success before I bother with it.
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Old August 10 2012, 12:35 PM   #6
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

I'm not going to be watching anything new this year unless I see it's getting good ratings. I barely have enough time to watch TV as it is anymore, and I'm really tired of being let down by new stuff too. It's especially irritating since I think the Nielsen ratings are flawed.
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Old August 10 2012, 12:40 PM   #7
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

I agree - it's depressing watching a good show that gets binned halfway through, such as Firefly.

I've got to admit, there's usually a justification for cancellation though. Most new shows are pretty poor. Even the ones that get renewed like Grimm.
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Old August 10 2012, 01:20 PM   #8
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

I guess it depends on the type of show it is, also. Sitcoms/comedies are usually easier to watch a few episodes, enjoy, and then if that's it, that's it. Even the ones with developing plot lines are easier to "watch and forget." For instance, even though I missed it when it was on, I watched Better Off Ted on Netflix (once two years ago and again a few months ago). The "will they/won't they" relationship between Ted and Linda only seemed to move forward just as the show ended. Do I wish the show continued? Yes. Do I feel it was a waste of time because the show was cancelled? No.

And it's not as if every show gets cancelled right away. I find that if a show can hang on for at least two seasons, the networks usually allow the writers to wrap things up. And there are plenty of shows from last season which are getting a second season.

With me, I tend to bail on a new show before it gets cancelled. For instance, I stopped watching The Bionic Woman two or three episodes in. Conversely, I stuck with Lost and saw it through to the end. A little mix of being able to spot worthwhile shows and being lucky, I guess.

The thing is, with the way we consume media today, you have more control. With Eureka, I started watching with Season 3. Between re-runs and Netflix, I was able to catch up what I missed. I'm doing the same thing now with Warehouse 13 as I'm watching the current season, but am still on very early season 1 on Netflix.

A year and a half ago, I tried both 30 Rock and Parks and Receration on Netflix. With Parks and Recreation I timed it (quite unintentionally) perfectly, where I finished the two seasons on Netflix in time to watch the third season first on Hulu (the first two or three episodes as I don't have Hulu Plus) and then I was able to catch the rest on TV. With 30 Rock, I missed out on the first half of season five, but caught the second half, again, between Hulu and live TV.

Community, I watched the first two episodes of and enjoyed, but for some reason, didn't stick with it. After hearing of how awesome it was, I watched the paintball episode on Hulu. I started watching week-to-week with season 2 and finally got the season 1 DVD this past Christmas.

Today, it's possible to skip the first season of most shows and catch up, later, if you are willing to pay. Netflix is a little slow in getting the new season of shows, but once you have it, it's a flat $8/month to watch unlimited episodes. Same thing with Hulu Plus (which, I think have the episodes a day after they've aired). There's also iTunes, which you can buy individual episodes or full seasons of shows.

I don't think I've ever been permanently scarred for watching a show that got cancelled. Yes, it's frustrating to watch something and have it yanked out from under you, but that's life. If you avoid all new TV shows because they might get cancelled, you risk missing some good stuff (though, like I said, if you are willing to pay, you can still catch up).
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Old August 10 2012, 01:29 PM   #9
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

most recently my favorite cancelled show was Awake
I guess it was too good for the network and people would rather watch the latest Reality Trainwreck show
Awake, at least got a decent resolution and didn't end on a cliffhanger.
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Old August 10 2012, 01:36 PM   #10
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

The last one I remember watching every week was the Sarah Connor Chronicles. It's a real shame that was binned without a conclusion.
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Old August 10 2012, 01:39 PM   #11
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

There are very few shows I watch week to week anymore and if I do it's because I've watched the first few seasons back to back.

A prime example is Breaking Bad, I watch seasons 1 and 2 from a friends DVD collection and liked it so much I started watching season 3, fortunately season 3 was 3/4 of the way done so I was able to watch most of it back to back as well.

It absolutely killed me to wait on season 4 and then to watch it week to week and it's total crap the way they are splitting season 5.
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Old August 10 2012, 01:59 PM   #12
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

It's fun to experience a show as it's happening for the first time. Although I will admit that I don't watch a show until word of mouth has given it positive reviews and I know it's both worth watching and has a reasonable likelihood of surviving another year.

Even with Lost, I didn't start watching live until the third season and I can only think of a handful of shows I watched from the beginning when it started airing. But my TV viewing time is very limited to begin with, so I don't think fear of cancellation is what drives my habits.
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Old August 10 2012, 02:24 PM   #13
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

TBH between commercials, short seasons, writers strikes, hiatus, sports interruptions and so on I'm amazed any show makes it any more.

If television continues on in it's current business model it will eventually kill itself, IMO the advent of the DVR bought it some life.
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Old August 10 2012, 02:38 PM   #14
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DVR is helping kill the business model since people can skip commercials.
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Old August 10 2012, 02:43 PM   #15
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Re: Cancellations... why even watch new shows?

PKerr wrote: View Post
There are very few shows I watch week to week anymore and if I do it's because I've watched the first few seasons back to back.
This is what I've found myself doing now, waiting till a show gets a few seasons under its belt then check it out via DVD, and then keep watching new.
What I did with Supernatural 1-5, True Blood 1-3, Fringe 1-3, etc


The only new shows I've watch freshed for a while have been things like Dollhouse (as a JW fan) and Caprica (BSG fan) and even then, though I do love both shows, it was obvious from day one they would be cancelled soon enough.



Actually I did try watch Terra Nova and Falling Skies fresh last year. The first I turned off half way into the pilot, awful. The latter I did actually make it to the end of Season 1, but I've no interest in watching any of s2
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