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Old November 8 2011, 09:17 PM   #181
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The writers have intentionally written her as a little bit unlikeable because they wanted a change after Montgomery.

Montgomery was more like a father figure in the precinct.. the wise old guy who gives advice but still has the reigns in hand. The reason why he kept Castle around was that he saw how good he was for Kate and i believe in the later seasons when people began picking up signals that there was something developing between them he encouraged it because "before Castle Beckett didn't have fun".

Gates is the polar opposite and it's just a different management style. She is career oriented and that means she wants results from her people and this is why she's driving them harder than necessary at times because she wants her precinct to have as good a record as it can be. Castle is a loose cannon.. he could fire any way and that makes him unpredictable and that's something Gates apparently doesn't like and only by mayor intervention was she forced to endure him. However i see her (very) slowly warming up to the fact that Castle can contribute which was very evident in this episode when she indirectly admitted that the Beckett/Castle team works very well. However even she has realized that there's more between them than just partners and that brought a smile to my face (and she said it with the same smile she so often displayed on DS9 ).
Don't blame them there. But she's still a right pain the you know what .

Yea he is, but it looks like he's trying to become somewhat less of one. So working with Beckett isn't all bad. She's rubbing off on him.

Me too. Just seeing her realize some of that last night made me grin a bit. It's good to see some of that ice melt off of her .
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Old November 8 2011, 11:02 PM   #182
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I LOL'd at the opening gag of Castle as Elvis, so this episode was a net win. Yeah, the Alexis sub-plot was pretty weak. I kept expecting some sort of twist on the cliche. The rest was good fun.
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Old November 8 2011, 11:08 PM   #183
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I LOL'd at the opening gag of Castle as Elvis, so this episode was a net win. Yeah, the Alexis sub-plot was pretty weak. I kept expecting some sort of twist on the cliche. The rest was good fun.
Yea that was good. And the parts with them solving the case were good... didn't mind Alexis's plot myself. Thought it was somewhat weak, but funny . It was good to see her handle the situation in the way that she did.

The only issue I had was with the Chief. Other than that, this episode was good enough.
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Old November 9 2011, 12:36 AM   #184
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I'm really excited for "Killshot" in two weeks. Kate breaking down, a sniper lurking about it. It looks interesting. As for describing Rick and Kate as "Caskett" I'll repeat myself. I happen to love the shipper aspect of the show and have embraced the fan given title. If someone doesn't want to call them that then don't. Is it silly? Dur. Most shipper given names are silly. Do you want to have fun and enjoy this show? Yes? Then join in with the shippiness!!! Otherwise feel free to address them as Rick and Kate. Stana and Nathan themselves don't mind the term, I don't see why it is such a big deal other than Christopher doesn't like it.
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Old November 9 2011, 01:19 AM   #185
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Ahh, the Internet... where every idle comment that would be just a brief aside in a normal conversation ends up getting debated to death for 20 pages.
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Old November 9 2011, 01:22 AM   #186
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^ Except you didn't make "Caskett" a brief aside you made a big deal about it and added "civilized people" essentially insulting the rest of us who do like and use the term. Civilized people do use Caskett. It is a term of affection.
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Old November 9 2011, 03:29 AM   #187
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Ahh, the Internet... where every idle comment that would be just a brief aside in a normal conversation ends up getting debated to death for 20 pages.
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^ Except you didn't make "Caskett" a brief aside you made a big deal about it and added "civilized people" essentially insulting the rest of us who do like and use the term. Civilized people do use Caskett. It is a term of affection.
Aaaaand we're off for another 20 pages!
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Old November 9 2011, 03:50 AM   #188
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Nah I'm done now
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Old November 9 2011, 03:59 AM   #189
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See, that's the problem with the Internet. There are no nonverbal cues so people constantly misread each other's intent, and that's a constant problem for folks whose mode of conversation includes offhand snarky or sardonic or deadpan remarks, because inevitably someone's going to assume you're "making a big deal" or had some passionate emotional investment in what you said. People online just take each other too seriously and get too defensive.
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Old November 9 2011, 02:26 PM   #190
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What the hell do you mean by THAT!?!?




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Old November 11 2011, 08:44 PM   #191
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And Fillion looked really bad in his Elvis disguise. Is he putting on weight? He seemed huge.
My wife, who adores Fillion said that, but I've noticed he looks heavier each season. As a co-worker said, "If you don't need makeup/padding to pull off the 'Fat Vegas Elvis' look, it's time to stay away from the sweets table, Nathan!"
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Old November 11 2011, 11:04 PM   #192
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Him gaining weight has become very noticeable.. compare him from season 1 to now (and if you want go all the way back to Firefly days).

It hasn't gotten so bad that they need to hide a big gut but he's definitely putting on the pounds.. it's far from me to impose any view on him as a person but i think they took the relationship gut thing a bit too soon in motion
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Old November 11 2011, 11:14 PM   #193
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Him gaining weight has become very noticeable.. compare him from season 1 to now (and if you want go all the way back to Firefly days).
Well, you can attribute some of the difference between Fillion today and Fillion during his Firefly days to simple aging. Firefly was nearly a decade ago, after all. But yeah, even the difference between how he looked in Season One of Castle and today is pretty striking.
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Old November 11 2011, 11:57 PM   #194
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Yep he has definitely been gaining some weight. It is very visible in his face mostly. Maybe they've asked him to put on a few pounds? Or he is letting loose! Either way I don't think it is that much of a big deal and if he gets a role where he needs to loose it it isn't that much in my opinion.
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Old November 12 2011, 12:27 AM   #195
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See, that's the problem with the Internet. There are no nonverbal cues so people constantly misread each other's intent, and that's a constant problem for folks whose mode of conversation includes offhand snarky or sardonic or deadpan remarks, because inevitably someone's going to assume you're "making a big deal" or had some passionate emotional investment in what you said. People online just take each other too seriously and get too defensive.
This is hysterical. You teach the course on taking a single off-hand remark and running with It paragraph after paragraph.
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