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Old September 21 2011, 12:06 PM   #16
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Re: Dilithium crystals

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Dilithium is used to control the matter-antimatter reaction in the warp core, it has nothing to do with plasma, which is the standard way of electrical power distribution on all of the starships we've seen, from the NX-01 through to the Defiant, with the exception of Voyager, which used cheese...
Ah, yes- I remember that being mentioned (I think it was in Episode #36....):

Borg: "We are the Borg. Existence, as you know it, is over. We will add your biological distinctiveness and Camembert to our own. Resistance is futile."

Janeway: “Ah! We do have some Camembert.... It IS a bit runny...."

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Old September 21 2011, 06:24 PM   #17
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Re: Dilithium crystals

In "The Expance" plasma was part of the supplies to be stollen and a main reason they had to go get it. They did not have enough plasma left to power the engines for the long trip.

TOS went from time travel as an accident to time travel at will using high speed to achieve the effect. But then, TOS was probably the biggest cannon violator of any Trek series.
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Old September 21 2011, 07:09 PM   #18
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Re: Dilithium crystals

I think you're talking about the movie written by Leonard Nimoy there.

Manny Coto was the last person to go to for integrity. The science advisor was probably tripping him up anyway as he was also a writer unfavored to a position of power.

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Old September 21 2011, 09:42 PM   #19
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^Nope, he's talking about "Assignment: Earth"

Thanks for the dilithium references, people. They slipped right past me.
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Old September 22 2011, 12:22 AM   #20
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^Nope, he's talking about "Assignment: Earth"

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Correct. I'm going through TOS on blu ray. After spending a few years on a ST forum it is interesting to see TOS again and view all the things in that show that fans complain about when it comes to ENT or VOY. They really were making it up as they go back then and had no reservations about violating cannon. Back then they did not seem to care so much about consistancy.
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Old September 22 2011, 12:26 AM   #21
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Don't say that in the TOS forum. They don't handle comments like that very well up there.
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Old September 22 2011, 12:51 AM   #22
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How does time travel to get back where you came from violate cannon? I thought using it as a gimmicky science was stupid as it should have been a one offer and not a cheap ploy as it was written by Spock after all.
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Old September 22 2011, 12:55 AM   #23
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.....They really were making it up as they go back then and had no reservations about violating cannon. Back then they did not seem to care so much about consistancy.
That's why I don't really have any trouble with the "The Time Barrier has been broken" comment. It was the series pilot and there is no way they could have every detail of technology and character traits & history (Laughing Spock, anyone?) planned. Neither did the folks involved with the show suspect the expanse of the trek Universe and fandom that lay ahead!
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Old September 22 2011, 01:26 AM   #24
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How does time travel to get back where you came from violate cannon? I thought using it as a gimmicky science was stupid as it should have been a one offer and not a cheap ploy as it was written by Spock after all.
I'm speaking of time travel and cannon separately. I've just started season three and so far there has been time travel by three different ways.

1. Accidental time travel when they discovered the slingshot effect on time. They used the same effect to get back.
2. The portal.
3. The episode where they went back in time to observe history and ran into the being that was there to interrupt the race to build orbiting weapon platforms.

Cannon is a different issue. They started messing with cannon in episode three of the first season. But, as someone said, no one expected the ST universe to grow the way it has. But hey, it is not like Sabrina getting a new Darren. I guess back then anything could happen on TV.
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Old September 22 2011, 01:33 AM   #25
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^Nope, he's talking about "Assignment: Earth"

Thanks for the dilithium references, people. They slipped right past me.
I enjoyed Lansing and Garr in that episode, but they never did tell what method they used for time travel. The entire ship was there so we know it was not the portal. They treated the time travel aspect very casually. Maybe that is how ENT and other later Trek should have done things. Don't explain it, just do it.
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Old September 23 2011, 12:36 AM   #26
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Don't they discover the slingshot effect in 'Assignment Eternity' ? what was the third TOS episode that violated cannon and how?
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Old September 23 2011, 12:37 AM   #27
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I mean 'Assigment Earth'
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Old September 23 2011, 12:55 AM   #28
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They discovered the slingshot effect in "The Naked Time", they used it in "Assignment: Earth" and Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.

TOS violated it's own continuity several times. But it was a time before home video, and a show made without anyone involved expecting the kind of OCD rewatching/analysis that Trekkies love so much. Hence James R. Kirk and everything else in the Nitpicker's Guide to Star Trek.
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Old September 23 2011, 01:47 AM   #29
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They really were making it up as they go back then and had no reservations about violating cannon. Back then they did not seem to care so much about consistancy.
Sigh, those were the days.
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Old September 23 2011, 03:58 AM   #30
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They really were making it up as they go back then and had no reservations about violating cannon. Back then they did not seem to care so much about consistancy.
Sigh, those were the days.
Yep.
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