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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

View Poll Results: Which character do you prefer?
Beverly Crusher 132 64.71%
Katherine Pulaski 59 28.92%
no preference 13 6.37%
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Old September 11 2012, 04:08 AM   #121
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Re: Dr. Crusher or Pulaski

I would've liked Pulaski more if she wasn't so mean to Data. It was like someone kicking a puppy!

At least Spock gave as good as he got when it came to his arguments with McCoy.
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Old September 11 2012, 03:51 PM   #122
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I would've liked Pulaski more if she wasn't so mean to Data. It was like someone kicking a puppy!

At least Spock gave as good as he got when it came to his arguments with McCoy.

Data can not be "injured" in that manner. It was more like insulting an XBox system or your microwave. They can take it.
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Old September 12 2012, 12:39 AM   #123
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Data can not be "injured" in that manner. It was more like insulting an XBox system or your microwave. They can take it.
Uh, not really. The whole point of Data's story arc is that he's NOT just an Xbox or a microwave. While insults might not affect him the in the same way as they would a flesh and blood human, that's not to say that they don't affect him at all.

Pulaski couldn't seem to grasp that the fact that he was made of metal didn't preclude him from being a life form (at least, not in the beginning). I seem to recall a very different exchange between Data and Dr. Bashir in the TNG/DS9 crossover where Bashir marvels at just how human-like Data actually seems to be.

(It's interesting that the primary complaint against Pulaski seems to be her attitude towards Data. Anyone watch SFDebris' reviews? He pretty much UNLOADS on Pulaski during his review of The Child.)
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Old September 12 2012, 12:46 AM   #124
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Re: Dr. Crusher or Pulaski

Pulaski is a robophobe.
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Old September 13 2012, 03:36 AM   #125
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Re: Dr. Crusher or Pulaski

Good gracious, I totally forgot that she was kind of mean to Data. She wasn't really a "robophobe", she just couldn't grasp the concept that he was special. Even though he had no feelings, per se; what was said and/or done to him in a negative way affected him in some way or form whether leading him to believe there was something "wrong" with him or he did or said something "wrong". Data's a complex being that requires as much gentle nurturing and understanding as a human.
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Old September 14 2012, 02:15 AM   #126
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Uh, not really. The whole point of Data's story arc is that he's NOT just an Xbox or a microwave. While insults might not affect him the in the same way as they would a flesh and blood human, that's not to say that they don't affect him at all.

Pulaski couldn't seem to grasp that the fact that he was made of metal didn't preclude him from being a life form (at least, not in the beginning). I seem to recall a very different exchange between Data and Dr. Bashir in the TNG/DS9 crossover where Bashir marvels at just how human-like Data actually seems to be.

(It's interesting that the primary complaint against Pulaski seems to be her attitude towards Data. Anyone watch SFDebris' reviews? He pretty much UNLOADS on Pulaski during his review of The Child.)
It is pretty funny that The Measure of a Man, which proved that Data was sentient being was aired in season two, the same year Pulaski was on TNG! If he is a sentient being shouldn't he deserve respect like everyone else on that ship?
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Old September 14 2012, 07:48 AM   #127
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MOAM comes near the middle of the season, and all the "Pulaski being mean to Data" stuff comes before it. This exchange from Pen Pals shows quite a changed attitude toward Data:

PICARD: How about a war? If generations of conflict is killing millions, do we interfere? Ah, well, now we're all a little less secure in our moral certitude. And what if it's not just killings. If an oppressive government is enslaving millions? You see, the Prime Directive has many different functions, not the least of which is to protect us. To prevent us from allowing our emotions to overwhelm our judgement.
PULASKI: My emotions are involved. Data's friend is going to die. That means something.
WORF: To Data.
PULASKI: Does that invalidate the emotion?
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Old September 14 2012, 09:05 AM   #128
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I voted for Crusher as she is my favourite TNG character (and no I don't fancy her!) but I liked Pulaski as well. I randomly caught some Season Two episodes the other day and although they overdid the Data stuff she was a nice contrast to the rest of the crew.

That said I do think that Crusher also presented that alternative viewpoint, in conference room scenes she & Worf were the most likely characters to argue against the consensus, though she wasn't quite as aggressive as Pulaski about it.
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Old September 15 2012, 07:34 AM   #129
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I voted for Pulaski because, in spite of being a carbon copy of McCoy, she at least had character and personality. I like that she would stand up to stuffy ol' Picard. And she picked on Data the way Bones picked on Spock.
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Old September 15 2012, 08:06 AM   #130
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I find Crusher rather vapid. She does have beautiful hair. I voted for Pulaski because personality actually came out of her mouth.
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Old September 17 2012, 06:15 PM   #131
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First impressions are everything, so I never really "got over" Pulaski's disrespect of Data. The difference between that and McCoy's disrespect of Spock was that Spock gave as good as he got. In contrast, Data was naive and defenseless, and it just came off like she was bullying him. Yes, Pulaski improved later on, but it still mars my perceptions of the character.
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Old September 18 2012, 12:12 AM   #132
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I find Crusher rather vapid. She does have beautiful hair. I voted for Pulaski because personality actually came out of her mouth.
Wasn't that a wig? I'm sure I read that somewhere.
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Old September 18 2012, 12:28 AM   #133
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Re: Dr. Crusher or Pulaski

Pulaski all the way, if for no other reason than if they'd kept Pulaski, we might have been saved from the horror that was Sub Rosa.

I found Pulaski far more interesting and Crusher was practically wasted as any sort of meaningful character. But then, most of the female characters in TNG were poorly written and developed, so no one had any really great contributions to the overall series.
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Old September 18 2012, 02:47 AM   #134
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First of all Diana Muldaur is a fantastic actress and despite my dislike of the character, I think she made a memorable impression. That being said I think the Crusher character was a better fit for TNG. Gates McFadden had much better chemistry with the cast than Muldaur though neither character was really used properly.
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Old September 18 2012, 05:17 AM   #135
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I don't think Pulaski worked too well cause this was a future where they're all supposed to be nice to each other.
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