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Old August 11 2011, 06:17 AM   #1
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If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

So I've heard that one of the ideas they were toying with is that Voyager would go through a transwarp conduit and end right back at the beginning.

Is it just me or would it have been the most genius ending to a show ever? I can just imagine them exiting the conduit, sensors are down and then they get a hail from a ship and its the Kazon.
Janeway sinks back into her seat, teary eyed and roll credits!

I think it would have been fantastic and a really brave move.
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Old August 11 2011, 06:22 AM   #2
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

An ending like that would have pissed off the vast majority of the show's fanbase. There's nothing poignant about it, it would have only been good for shock value.
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Old August 11 2011, 06:25 AM   #3
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

You really hate her don't you.
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Old August 11 2011, 07:16 PM   #4
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

I think it would be perfectly fine provided it followed whatever the bulk of the finale's mission was - say, saving yet another primitive race from evil overlordship or something, and, knowing they'd saved the day, try to make the last-ditch effort to get home... only to find themselves facing Culluh.

Sure, it'd be a downer, but I'd have accepted it, dramatically.

The finale we got was basically them having their cake and eating it too, a cliche they were even bold enough to include in the script itself!
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Old August 12 2011, 09:26 PM   #5
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

Of course it would have been sad to see them not getting home.

But the ending which is suggested in the original post would have given us continuing adventures in the books and a possible movie which wouldn't have been that bad.
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Old August 12 2011, 10:48 PM   #6
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

Technically from a kazon perspective, they never left Kazon space.

What if they got back to Earth just as the Kazon finished conquering it?
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Old August 13 2011, 01:07 AM   #7
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

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Technically from a kazon perspective, they never left Kazon space.

What if they got back to Earth just as the Kazon finished conquering it?
ROTFL! The Kazon had not a single brain cell among them!
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Old August 16 2011, 01:47 AM   #8
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

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Of course it would have been sad to see them not getting home.

But the ending which is suggested in the original post would have given us continuing adventures in the books and a possible movie which wouldn't have been that bad.
A voyager movie? Janeways cameo was bad enough. Only slightly more disapointing than ending we got. Would have been a Voyager reset.
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Old August 16 2011, 12:26 PM   #9
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

The conduit shoulda plonked them 75,000 light years in the opposite direction from Earth.
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Old August 16 2011, 02:55 PM   #10
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

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ROTFL! The Kazon had not a single brain cell among them!
Ah, those Kazon, they just go rolling along.

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But the ending which is suggested in the original post would have given us continuing adventures in the books and a possible movie which wouldn't have been that bad.
I like the current VOY relaunch a lot better...

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Old August 16 2011, 03:27 PM   #11
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

This is the problem with shows that revolve totally around things like "Going Home", you have to find some way of stretching that out for the entire series run and either don't resolve it at all or have it happen right at the end.

IMO, "Going Home" should've just been the secondary plot of the show. The starter plot to get things going, and then it becomes a background thing while the primary plot turns out to be something else, something more grand that could really engross a show for several seasons.
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Old August 16 2011, 03:50 PM   #12
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

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Of course it would have been sad to see them not getting home.

But the ending which is suggested in the original post would have given us continuing adventures in the books and a possible movie which wouldn't have been that bad.
Star Trek has always been far-fetched but a Voyager movie is moving into full blown fantasy. There was more chance of them casting Liberace as the Terminator than making a voyager movie.
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Old August 16 2011, 07:33 PM   #13
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Re: If Voyager's finale had left them back in Kazon territory

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Of course it would have been sad to see them not getting home.

But the ending which is suggested in the original post would have given us continuing adventures in the books and a possible movie which wouldn't have been that bad.
Star Trek has always been far-fetched but a Voyager movie is moving into full blown fantasy. There was more chance of them casting Liberace as the Terminator than making a voyager movie.
Maybe. But we would still have had the books.

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I like the current VOY relaunch a lot better...
I don't.

I don't want to read books where four of my favorites are killed off, ruined or missing.
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Old August 16 2011, 07:38 PM   #14
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I read the first two books of the relaunch by Christie Golden when they came out. I was not impressed. Beyond the (in my opinion grossly unnecessary) fanwank elements of the two books), I wasn't much a fan of having Harry Kim's girlfriend being an all-too-obvious copy of Sydney Bristow in in the 24th Century. That, and frankly, it was just not all that well written.

Eventually I'll read more (and will gladly eat my words if it turns out the newer books are any good) but for now, it left a rather bad taste in my mouth.
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Old August 16 2011, 08:33 PM   #15
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I read the first two books of the relaunch by Christie Golden when they came out. I was not impressed. Beyond the (in my opinion grossly unnecessary) fanwank elements of the two books), I wasn't much a fan of having Harry Kim's girlfriend being an all-too-obvious copy of Sydney Bristow in in the 24th Century. That, and frankly, it was just not all that well written.

Eventually I'll read more (and will gladly eat my words if it turns out the newer books are any good) but for now, it left a rather bad taste in my mouth.
The newer books are excellent and worth a read and I speak as someone who thought that Voyager the show was a complete piece of shit.
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