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Old September 15 2011, 05:24 PM   #91
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I have never met anyone in real life who didn't love that sequence.
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When that scene happened, the audience roared with laughter in every instance that I saw the movie.
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Old September 15 2011, 06:27 PM   #92
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It wouldn't just go away forever.

Are you seriously suggesting that they would just keep cranking them out until something finally hit? Really? Name one franchise that has been that forgiving.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:29 PM   #93
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And they supposedly had a consultant for this movie too. In a couple areas she either didn't do her job or the writers just ignored her.
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That's why they're called "consultants". Their suggestions/advice can be ingored if it interfers with the story or the visual drama. Thats true of pretty much any movie, be it a biopic or a SF action blockbuster.
Copy/pasting from something I posted a couple of years ago concerning the same question:
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Carolyn Porco was consulted mainly concerning the Titan scene (the original idea had been to do it quite differently, and the change to having the Enterprise warp into Titan's atmosphere was done at her suggestion, iirc.) The filmmakers still decided to do certain things for dramatic or visual effect (the position of Saturn's rings in the background as Enterprise rises out of the mist is one example, even though they should have been nearly edge-on when viewed from Titan.) Porco acknowledged on her Cassini website that sometimes artistic choice trumps scientific accuracy in the interest of telling a story. That's showbiz, as they say.
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Old September 15 2011, 07:55 PM   #94
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There was 4 years between Back to the Future and parts II & III.

Seemed to work out okay.

that's because they were making parts two and three together and releasing them back to back.
They could've done it in 1986. There wasn't any need to wait 4 years. In the BttF timeline it all takes place the same week.
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Old September 15 2011, 08:00 PM   #95
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wow, a potential four and a half year gap between movies is just ridiculous
There was 4 years between Back to the Future and parts II & III.

Seemed to work out okay.

that's because they were making parts two and three together and releasing them back to back.
After it was a hit, Zemeckis intended to make a sequel but got delayed making "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" and they had to push it back.

Hmmm...Where I have I heard that before?
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Old September 15 2011, 10:09 PM   #96
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It wouldn't just go away forever.

Are you seriously suggesting that they would just keep cranking them out until something finally hit? Really? Name one franchise that has been that forgiving.
Aliens/Predator? Incredible Hulk? Terminator?

History is littered with people making mediocre reboots/sequels in an effort to profit off of earlier success. While a failure or a few failures have the potential to slow things down, they can't completely halt a franchise forever.

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Red Matter is no more ridonkulous than the Genesis Device. Neither is travelling through time through a black hole. In fact, if anything, these things are more realistic.
I don't really care about Red Matter or the Genesis Device. They're plainly in the realm of fiction. What doesn't make sense is when they take something that is real science and they mess it up. This has happened often throughout Star Trek, just probably not as much in one outing.
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Old September 16 2011, 12:59 AM   #97
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Aliens/Predator? Incredible Hulk? Terminator?
I don't understand. Which of those franchises had four consecutive failures and was permitted to continue?
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Old September 16 2011, 02:55 AM   #98
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Aliens/Predator? Incredible Hulk? Terminator?
I don't understand. Which of those franchises had four consecutive failures and was permitted to continue?
You're going to have to define failure first, and what you're counting as the initial three. If it's Insurrection/Enterprise/Nemesis, then by those standards, every movie after Aliens was a failure, which would be four movies, and they've greenlit a fifth now. Regardless of how Prometheus does, I can guarantee there will be another Alien movie of some sort. Terminator is the same way. With incredible failures both in film and on TV, they're still talking about making a fifth movie. It may take time, but it will happen.
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Old September 16 2011, 03:04 AM   #99
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Yes, but what color are the fucking warp nacelles going to be?!?

Dammit.
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Old September 16 2011, 03:09 AM   #100
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Mauve.
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Old September 16 2011, 03:15 AM   #101
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Mauve.

And then there's Mauve!
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Old September 16 2011, 03:24 AM   #102
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Mauve.

And then there's Mauve!

That old compromisin', enterprisin', anything but tranquilizing,
Right on Mauve!

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Old September 16 2011, 06:42 AM   #103
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Oh.
My.
God.

I get that!
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What doesn't make sense is when they take something that is real science and they mess it up. This has happened often throughout Star Trek, just probably not as much in one outing.
I'm sorry I don't remember this movie being filled with a lot of "real science" moments, but I may not have as discerning an eye as you.

Care to highlight?
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Old September 16 2011, 04:17 PM   #105
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What doesn't make sense is when they take something that is real science and they mess it up. This has happened often throughout Star Trek, just probably not as much in one outing.
I'm sorry I don't remember this movie being filled with a lot of "real science" moments, but I may not have as discerning an eye as you.

Care to highlight?
Well, one of the most obvious would be the supernova thing. We know what a supernova is and does, and what they say the supernova is and does isn't consistent with that.

If you're really interested, there was an interesting article written on both the good and bad science of the movie: http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/09/bad-...nce-star-trek/
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