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Old January 3 2012, 03:51 PM   #1471
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Yeah that posed a quandary for me a few days ago. I was considering getting the Farscape BD set, but it doesn't include PKW, and I'm not getting that woeful German version.
The video quality of the Blu-ray version of the series is damn well indistinguishable from the upscaled PAL DVDs - to my aged eyesight at least. The only real benefits are subtitles (which aren't included on the DVDs that I have) and much improved audio.

Anyway, more on topic, play.com has the TNG taster Blu-ray listed for £7.99 - £1 more than amazon.co.uk. I'm not switching 'though as I find Play's delivery is generally much swifter.
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Old January 3 2012, 03:54 PM   #1472
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Yeah that posed a quandary for me a few days ago. I was considering getting the Farscape BD set, but it doesn't include PKW, and I'm not getting that woeful German version.
The video quality of the Blu-ray version of the series is damn well indistinguishable from the upscaled PAL DVDs - to my aged eyesight at least.
That's because the Blu-ray version of Farscape is upscaled from the PAL masters, and not native HD.
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Old January 3 2012, 04:08 PM   #1473
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Yeah, I know - even with better compression algorithms, I can't see much difference in the image from the DVDs apart from each episode occupying about 7.5GB of disc space instead of 1.5GB.
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Old January 3 2012, 08:57 PM   #1474
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Anyway, more on topic, play.com has the TNG taster Blu-ray listed for £7.99 - £1 more than amazon.co.uk. I'm not switching 'though as I find Play's delivery is generally much swifter.
Unless you have Prime!
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Old January 3 2012, 11:47 PM   #1475
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Anyway, more on topic, play.com has the TNG taster Blu-ray listed for £7.99 - £1 more than amazon.co.uk. I'm not switching 'though as I find Play's delivery is generally much swifter.
Unless you have Prime!
I could sign up for the one-month free trial but it hardly seems worth the effort to save £1. Amazon have cocked up several orders in the past so I tend not to trust their competence. Play have never got an order wrong.
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Old January 4 2012, 12:11 AM   #1476
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(I recall reading that the early seasons were distributed as 16mm film rather than videotape and telecined by each individual station.
I believe you're thinking of TOS.
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Old January 4 2012, 02:12 AM   #1477
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I believe you're thinking of TOS.
Yes, reruns of any 60s/70s show would have been distributed as film not videotape. However, I think that practice may have continued into the late 80s with TNG episodes. I do know movies were distributed as 16mm well into this era.

Either way, the TNG season 1/2 transfers we have been watching for the last 15 years are definitely worse than the others; they look more like generation loss (print of a print) than intentionally darker. It will be interesting to see how these episodes look with a fresh transfer from the original negs.
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Old January 4 2012, 11:31 AM   #1478
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Yes, reruns of any 60s/70s show would have been distributed as film not videotape. However, I think that practice may have continued into the late 80s with TNG episodes. I do know movies were distributed as 16mm well into this era.

Either way, the TNG season 1/2 transfers we have been watching for the last 15 years are definitely worse than the others; they look more like generation loss (print of a print) than intentionally darker. It will be interesting to see how these episodes look with a fresh transfer from the original negs.
Not 15... it's been almost 25 years now!

What you're seeing is the fact that those seasons were finished on 1 inch analog type C composite videotape, while later seasons were component D1 (digital video).

I don't believe they would have considered doing a 16mm film-out with their low-quality video sources, then expected TV stations to do their own telecine back from film. What would be the purpose of that? The various affiliate TV stations across the country would have likely just recorded the analog satellite signal at a given time and then just re-broadcast it to their viewers. There's your generation loss.
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Old January 4 2012, 07:49 PM   #1479
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Anyway, more on topic, play.com has the TNG taster Blu-ray listed for £7.99 - £1 more than amazon.co.uk. I'm not switching 'though as I find Play's delivery is generally much swifter.
Unless you have Prime!
I could sign up for the one-month free trial but it hardly seems worth the effort to save £1. Amazon have cocked up several orders in the past so I tend not to trust their competence. Play have never got an order wrong.
Yeah I have it because I piggyback on my housemate's account. It's useful but otherwise I wouldn't pay the annual fee for it. Play have always been excellent for me too.
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Old January 5 2012, 08:20 PM   #1480
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New video online:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/01/05/st...clusive-video/
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Old January 5 2012, 08:29 PM   #1481
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It's looking really good! Not sure why Zorn is shifted so far to the 'green' but I'm ok with that.
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Old January 5 2012, 08:33 PM   #1482
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The starbase creature actually looks worse. You can see that it's basically a plate with frayed strings glued to it.
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Old January 5 2012, 08:46 PM   #1483
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I disagree, it looks a lot better, and now you can actually see they made one blue and one pink. As corny as it is, it was the intention of the show creators, and now it is clear.
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Old January 5 2012, 08:58 PM   #1484
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Sweeeeeet. Too bad the video wasn't in HD though.
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Old January 5 2012, 09:00 PM   #1485
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This is going to be a long month ...
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