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Old July 25 2012, 06:08 PM   #4411
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Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

Blimey, this release is going from bad to worse - I was really looking forward to 11001001 as well. Just hope the stereo mix is OK when I get there. Currently watching The Big Goodbye.
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Old July 25 2012, 06:12 PM   #4412
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Blimey, this release is going from bad to worse - I was really looking forward to 11001001 as well. Just hope the stereo mix is OK when I get there. Currently watching The Big Goodbye.
Switching to the original dvd mix is the only way its watchable.
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Old July 25 2012, 06:42 PM   #4413
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How can something like that happen?
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Old July 25 2012, 06:46 PM   #4414
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The player I've been watching on is an older Magnavox from 2009. When the heat subsides later this evening, I'll try rewatching some of the problem scenes on my PS3 and see if the same issues crop up.
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Old July 25 2012, 06:49 PM   #4415
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Blimey, this release is going from bad to worse - I was really looking forward to 11001001 as well. Just hope the stereo mix is OK when I get there. Currently watching The Big Goodbye.
The stereo mix is fine. So the episode is perfectly watchable and the visuals are just completely stunning. The opening blows you away.

Yes, they dropped the ball a bit with some of the audio, but most it is okay and the visual quality simply takes your breath away.
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Old July 25 2012, 06:54 PM   #4416
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Yes, they dropped the ball a bit with some of the audio, but most it is okay and the visual quality simply takes your breath away.
Without the audio glitches, this would've been the best technical home video release Trek had ever seen. Even surpassing the 2009 film.
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Old July 25 2012, 07:09 PM   #4417
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Casting the problems with the 7.1 mix aside for a moment, is the general quality of the 7.1 audio any better than the DVD audio track, or would the average viewer without a large 7.1 capable home cinema speaker set up be quite happy with the improved HD image and DVD soundtrack?
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Old July 25 2012, 07:24 PM   #4418
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Casting the problems with the 7.1 mix aside for a moment, is the general quality of the 7.1 audio any better than the DVD audio track, or would the average viewer without a large 7.1 capable home cinema speaker set up be quite happy with the improved HD image and DVD soundtrack?
I don't own a 7.1 surround sound system, but from the few episodes I've watched the overall volume is too low and the dialogue track seems buried. The music and effects track really overpower it. DVD audio mix is superior IMO.
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Old July 25 2012, 07:26 PM   #4419
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From everything I'm reading here it's just as well I haven't purchased this yet. I'll wait until these things are fixed.
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Old July 25 2012, 07:35 PM   #4420
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Yes, they dropped the ball a bit with some of the audio, but most it is okay and the visual quality simply takes your breath away.
Without the audio glitches, this would've been the best technical home video release Trek had ever seen. Even surpassing the 2009 film.
I would say that without the audio glitches, this set was would have been the best release ever for the BD format, considering the video improvement over DVD quality.

Such a shame.

I'm going to be very interested to hear what Mike Okuda has to say about this mess.
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Old July 25 2012, 07:37 PM   #4421
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I'm going to be very interested to hear what Mike Okuda has to say about this mess.
Keep in mind that Mike is a graphic designer, not an audio engineer.
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Old July 25 2012, 07:38 PM   #4422
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Casting the problems with the 7.1 mix aside for a moment, is the general quality of the 7.1 audio any better than the DVD audio track, or would the average viewer without a large 7.1 capable home cinema speaker set up be quite happy with the improved HD image and DVD soundtrack?
Reference the video, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever, this set utterly blows all antecedent home video (and broadcast) releases away - a GARGANTUAN increase in picture quality.

As I've already stated, I feel the DTS Master Audio encodes are quite poor - even on the episodes with no mistakes. To be honest, they don't sound that great on my system. Not even in the same ball park as a modern movie - some of which are mind blowing. I have a select list of titles I roll out when I'm running an "impress the crap out of 'em" system demo for guests!
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Old July 25 2012, 07:47 PM   #4423
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I have really been put off buying this. Shame as I wanted to support it for a DS9 release too.

What I cannot understand is how the reviews here are so different to the ones on other sites.
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Old July 25 2012, 07:54 PM   #4424
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How are the "stretching Enterprise's" handled in WNOHGB?
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Old July 25 2012, 08:01 PM   #4425
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How are the "stretching Enterprise's" handled in WNOHGB?
Stunning.

Even with the audio issues, it's an incredible set and I'm very happy with the purchase.
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