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Old February 10 2012, 05:56 AM   #3076
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Yeah, really though. I don't think people realize that it isn't a quick process. That stuff would have to be carefully painted out frame by frame. Even if a mic, crew member, or some other piece of equipment only appeared in 50% of the expanded footage...that would be 3 1/2 years worth of the show to hand edit.
I know it's not an easy task. I have a good background in Photoshop editing, so I understand the basics. I guess I keep forgetting that TNG-R is a budget production, and doesn't have LucasFilm™ unlimited funds.
The fact that you're thinking about it in terms of photoshop instead of a video editing package is exactly the issue. There are 1440 images in one minute of video alone. Of course this all ignores that the extra material is not evenly split on both sides
of the film, so widening the image would ruin the framing of the shots.
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Old February 10 2012, 07:09 AM   #3077
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When I said that my BR rip of Farpoint looked terrible in 4:3, I should've have made clear that the picture looked tiny, and the wide angle distance shots on the Bridge made the cast look like Lilliputians. There was nothing wrong with the picture quality. . that I could actually see.

In this instance, I don't see what's wrong with downloading a rip of the disc. It's a tester. If you like what you see, you'll likely buy the BR sets at huge expense. If you don't, you won't.

Why pay twice for 3 episodes?

To my mind, if CBS thought they'd make enough money out of the TNG Blu-ray sets to make the whole exercise worthwhile, they should've given the Next Level disc away free as a goodwill gesture. It's not as if Trek fans haven't been milked enough times already. I paid £60 for each season on DVD 10 years ago.

Ah, yes! But I got a £5 off season 1 voucher with the Next Level disc, I hear you all cry. Yup, a voucher you won't be able to redeem online, so you'll have to find somewhere on the high street that actually sells the set (no mean feat in the UK) and pay at least a 30% higher price.
Wow, just wow at your attitude. Anyways discussing illegal copies is against the rules of this board so go somewhere else please.
I paid three times for mine...one for me, one for my brother, and one for a friend. And I ripped mine to my HDD only for the fact that Windows doesn't have blu-ray drivers built-in, I can't afford to buy a program to play them, and my blu-ray player died. As soon as I can afford a new blu-ray player, I'm deleting the ripped files. They're too big and I'm interested in this project going forward to correct the mistakes and make TNG look amazing. I'll be buying the series in HD for sure. Don't download it - just pay for the thing. It's serioiusly not that expensive, and it will show support for the series!
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Old February 10 2012, 07:30 AM   #3078
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Anyone have any sales figure data?

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Old February 10 2012, 10:37 AM   #3079
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I know it's not an easy task. I have a good background in Photoshop editing, so I understand the basics. I guess I keep forgetting that TNG-R is a budget production, and doesn't have LucasFilm™ unlimited funds.
It's not just a question of funds, it's the sheer logistics of it. Say you have an extra in the background waiting for his or her cue to walk into the centre frame. If they're already visible just outside of the safe zone, you have a bit of a problem, because they still need to walk into shot but they can't be seen standing there on the edge. You can't just 'erase' them, you'd need to track them back further than they originally walked. Replace them with a CGI person? Where does it end? There could be thousands and thousands of shots with little 'problems' like that. Even a feature film budget wouldn't be enough to cover it. They'd have to be working on it for about fifty years. It'd be cheaper and quicker to remake whole the show!
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Old February 10 2012, 01:31 PM   #3080
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Why did they film it like that in the first place? I find it kinda clumsy to say "ah the hell, it's in the frame, but not in the safe zone." during a production.
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Old February 10 2012, 01:37 PM   #3081
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Anyone have any sales figure data?

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As of 2/10/2012 the disc was #23 in Amazon's Movies & TV on Blu-ray. It's selling better than Dumbo, but being beaten by the Muppets.
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Old February 10 2012, 02:39 PM   #3082
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Why did they film it like that in the first place? I find it kinda clumsy to say "ah the hell, it's in the frame, but not in the safe zone." during a production.
On TV time and budget, they probably didn't have the luxury to reshoot just because of that.

Besides, I could be wrong, but aren't the viewfinders on film cameras not actually "through the lens" viewfinders, meaning that they don't know exactly what they're shooting?
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Old February 10 2012, 03:17 PM   #3083
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Anyone have any sales figure data?

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As of 2/10/2012 the disc was #23 in Amazon's Movies & TV on Blu-ray. It's selling better than Dumbo, but being beaten by the Muppets.
Ha! Here in the UK its at #11! I wonder how long it will manage to stay there? In the end though, I think it's selling quite well. There must also be lots of people who are holding out for the box sets and passed on the taster.
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Old February 10 2012, 07:45 PM   #3084
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Besides, I could be wrong, but aren't the viewfinders on film cameras not actually "through the lens" viewfinders, meaning that they don't know exactly what they're shooting?
They use a so-called ground glass: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_glass#Photography

Here is one similar to what was used on TNG (posted earlier by Maxwell Everett):

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Old February 11 2012, 02:15 AM   #3085
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Anyone have any sales figure data?

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As of 2/10/2012 the disc was #23 in Amazon's Movies & TV on Blu-ray. It's selling better than Dumbo, but being beaten by the Muppets.
Ha! Here in the UK its at #11! I wonder how long it will manage to stay there? In the end though, I think it's selling quite well. There must also be lots of people who are holding out for the box sets and passed on the taster.
I'm one of those "holding out for the box set". I have a baby to think of and £15 is alot of money these days. I don't want to pay twice. I'm happy to come to this board for everybodys opinions and to get my "taster" here through all of your opinions and comments.
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Old February 11 2012, 03:10 AM   #3086
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Per Homemediamagazine

TNG is ranked 11th for the week. They only releases sales ratio based on whatever is number one. This week its drive. For every 100 copies of drive 10.224 of TNG are sold.
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Old February 11 2012, 06:46 AM   #3087
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One brief point. Obviously I am no angel (I freely admit to downloading content, hell even if I own the content its still illegal).

But while I think CBS sees Blu-Ray as Gravy for the project (and its on going syndication and digital streaming as the meat and potatoes), one thing is for certain. The larger the home market sells are the larger chance that CBS will consider approaching the less financially successful Trek series.

So my dollars (as they did with every single other format that has been released except the one season of TOS on the alternative HD Disc format, I never did purchase that) are my little way of helping give CBS reason to continue beyond TNG.
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Old February 11 2012, 10:53 PM   #3088
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Exactly. And I want to see DS9 on Blu-ray! So I will be buying TNG. Plus I never had TNG on DVD. So I look forward to rewatching the series.
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Old February 12 2012, 08:06 PM   #3089
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As of 2/10/2012 the disc was #23 in Amazon's Movies & TV on Blu-ray. It's selling better than Dumbo, but being beaten by the Muppets.
Ha! Here in the UK its at #11! I wonder how long it will manage to stay there? In the end though, I think it's selling quite well. There must also be lots of people who are holding out for the box sets and passed on the taster.
I'm one of those "holding out for the box set". I have a baby to think of and £15 is alot of money these days. I don't want to pay twice. I'm happy to come to this board for everybodys opinions and to get my "taster" here through all of your opinions and comments.
Yes, I've seen that fans run about 50-60% for waiting on the season sets. So I imagine the sales would be quite good.

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Old February 13 2012, 12:25 AM   #3090
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I was just thinking, I wonder if, when the episodes "Heart Of Glory" or "The Emissary" are re-edited, will CBS replace the Klingon ships that were just grabbed from STTMP with more modern ships (of course the one in TE fits the time period) or if they will just relicense the film from Paramount?
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