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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old January 18 2012, 03:27 AM   #1651
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Also they look really grainy for some reason.
That's what a properly scanned 35mm negative is supposed to look like, though. On the negative, the grain IS the picture information! And the grain is slightly more visible because the TV Extracted Area is smaller than normal Academy Aperture:


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Old January 18 2012, 06:03 AM   #1652
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Aha! So the uniforms weren't pink but red, I see...
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Old January 18 2012, 06:20 AM   #1653
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Some posts by TrekMovie during their initial watching: http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23StarTrekTNGonBluray

Also pics of the case:
http://twitter.com/#!/TrekMovie/stat...700866/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#!/TrekMovie/stat...950081/photo/1
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Old January 18 2012, 06:23 AM   #1654
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Whoa, that's a lot of grain.
Wow that is grainy, unusable for wallpaper without photoshopping.

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Old January 18 2012, 06:24 AM   #1655
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Aha! So the uniforms weren't pink but red, I see...
When did they look pink? Never did on my tvs.
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Old January 18 2012, 06:33 AM   #1656
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There is slightly more picture in the cropping, not much but its there.

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Old January 18 2012, 07:03 AM   #1657
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Aha! So the uniforms weren't pink but red, I see...
When did they look pink? Never did on my tvs.
Ok, well not pink per se, but what do you call that: http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uplo...AndCrewOLD.jpg Magenta, purple?
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Old January 18 2012, 09:13 AM   #1658
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There is slightly more picture in the cropping, not much but its there.

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Yeah, we're essentially getting those 16 SD pixels (now about 32 HD pixels) back that were previously taken up by thin vertical black bars in the 720x480 digital (DVD) presentation. As you can see, only the center 704 pixels had active picture information:

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Old January 18 2012, 09:50 AM   #1659
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The fact that the grain is there and left totally untouched is excellent. It looks wonderful.

The last thing it needed was a trip through a computer program to remove the grain like the movies on blu-ray got. It makes things look like waxworks.
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Old January 18 2012, 01:56 PM   #1660
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Looks awesome! The film grain does not bother me at all. Can't wait to get my copy!
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Old January 18 2012, 02:09 PM   #1661
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That's awesome. Even if you scale the 1080p image back to NTSC or PAL format it looks a thousand times better.

But I still think they should have gone to 16:9, using the full image space.
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Old January 18 2012, 02:17 PM   #1662
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We've been over this: Not possible. The TV extracted area is off-center, so any extension would be mostly on the left side, breaking the composition of almost all shots (imagine an off-center bridge viewscreen). There's often crew and equipment in those parts of the film. And even if those two weren't the case, there's still not enough image area to actually go 16:9 without cutting from top and bottom, again screwing with shot composition.
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Old January 18 2012, 03:34 PM   #1663
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I agree with Sho, but I will say that Seinfeld looks decent with the top and bottom cut off in HD syndication. Not saying I want them to do that to Trek, but if they did, people would survive.
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Old January 18 2012, 04:47 PM   #1664
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I do think they should do a 16:9 cut in addition to a 4:3 one...

I agree there are some shots where there are closeups of faces that would look abysmal cropped - perhaps this sort of shot can be opened up to include more of the negative because there is less chance of seeing booms/rigs etc?
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Old January 18 2012, 04:58 PM   #1665
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This has been discussed to death, you should look at earlier thread pages ...
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