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Old January 11 2012, 08:21 PM   #1561
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When they used the twinkle-wall it's especially obvious because the "stars" look a bit larger and their "aura" sort-of overlaps the other lights and stuff. (I don't know what this effect is called.)

It's noticeable here:



Compare that close-up shot with the view-screen in it to the Troi one above, apparently, using the green/blue-screen.

Most noticeably how the "close up" of the lights in the wall shows the inherent flaws in the process.
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Old January 11 2012, 08:25 PM   #1562
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The worst bit of 'Chromakey' in EaF is when Riker enters the holodeck. It looks very strange
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Old January 11 2012, 08:27 PM   #1563
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Ehh, but that we can write off as just a "natural oddity" of how the holodeck works.
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Old January 11 2012, 08:50 PM   #1564
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Old January 11 2012, 09:04 PM   #1565
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Trekker4747 wrote: View Post
When they used the twinkle-wall it's especially obvious because the "stars" look a bit larger and their "aura" sort-of overlaps the other lights and stuff. (I don't know what this effect is called.)

It's noticeable here:



Compare that close-up shot with the view-screen in it to the Troi one above, apparently, using the green/blue-screen.

Most noticeably how the "close up" of the lights in the wall shows the inherent flaws in the process.
That's because of the short depth-of-field in the shot and shooting actual lights as opposed to Quantel Harry video-painted starfields or the like. They never quite figured out how to make it all look consistent.
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Old January 11 2012, 09:43 PM   #1566
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That looks like a horrible mullet - any chance of CGI removing that?
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Old January 11 2012, 11:13 PM   #1567
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Trekker4747 wrote: View Post
When they used the twinkle-wall it's especially obvious because the "stars" look a bit larger and their "aura" sort-of overlaps the other lights and stuff. (I don't know what this effect is called.)
Maurice is correct. The effect is called bokeh. The twinkle-wall or star field (it moved by season 2) was made up of thousands of tiny reflective mirrors glued to black Duvateen. You can see a photo of it on page 65 of the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion.
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Old January 12 2012, 01:08 AM   #1568
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Higher resolution comparison @ youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQHpf...layer_embedded
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Old January 12 2012, 02:13 AM   #1569
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Seeing all that uninformed comment banter about the framing on YouTube is frustrating in a http://xkcd.com/386/ kind of way.
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Old January 12 2012, 06:57 AM   #1570
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Higher resolution comparison @ youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQHpf...layer_embedded
God I can't wait to watch this on an actual TV, with the surround system cranked...
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Old January 12 2012, 07:16 AM   #1571
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Seeing all that uninformed comment banter about the framing on YouTube is frustrating in a http://xkcd.com/386/ kind of way.
Yes, yes, it is.
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Old January 12 2012, 10:35 PM   #1572
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This is so awesome.

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Old January 12 2012, 10:43 PM   #1573
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Uh, that image is a little large for embedding.

Prediction: After all these months of waiting for the sampler to come out on Jan 31st, they'll release it a day or two early and we'll all do cartwheels.
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Old January 12 2012, 10:46 PM   #1574
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Its taken from the 1080p image.
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Old January 12 2012, 11:19 PM   #1575
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^Heavily compressed though.
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