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Old September 9 2011, 11:41 PM   #16
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so. what is everyone's opinion on the texas a&m-sec-baylor shenanigans?

my opinion?
you baylor
you ken starr
you dan beebe
you big 12-2


ok.. time for a drink.
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Old September 10 2011, 12:14 AM   #17
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Baylor's trying to save its ass. If the Big 12 disintegrates, they and the other leftovers are going to get dumped into the WAC or Mountain West or Big East, while OU, OSU and UT go to the Pac 16. Waco to Mansfield, CT for a conference game? Not an appealing prospect.

The lion's share of the blame for the Big 12's problem's has to be laid at the feet of Texas and the Big 12 office. By doling out uneven shares of the conference revenue they've left many of the teams economic second-class citizens. It's no surprise Nebraska, Colorado, and A&M are headed for what they see as greener pastures after being lorded over by the Longhorns.

I don't particularly want expansion, Twelve has worked out great for the SEC. In any case, the move to 16-team super-conferences is inevitable and it's best to get while the getting's good. There are a number of connections between A&M and the SEC. Bryant, Stallings and Sherill coached there with Bebes being on the Board of Regents so Alabama fans have an affinity for them. They were a long-time rival of LSU and Arkansas so those series would be revived. Of all the possible remaining Big 12 schools, A&M makes the best fit with the SEC.
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Old September 10 2011, 12:25 AM   #18
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The lion's share of the blame for the Big 12's problem's has to be laid at the feet of Texas and the Big 12 office.
QFT. Amusingly, the Longhorn Network seems to be a non-starter, so if this whole thing blows up "By God Texas" only has themselves to blame.

I think Oklahoma could be a solid fit in the SEC as well, but no way you're going to split them from Texas and Okie State, which is fine. I'm sure Kentucky fans would love to see Kansas come for basketball purposes, but basketball's not driving this. The Mizzou-to-SEC rumors are interesting.

Personally I'd rather they look east after A&M - Virginia Tech would be a great fit and a natural rival for my Vols. Georgia Tech's got history, but has the same problem as FSU and Clemson; no new TV markets.

If it were totally up to me and the SEC were going to 16, I'd add A&M, VTech, Georgia Tech, and... Mizzou I guess.
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Old September 10 2011, 12:45 AM   #19
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Virginia Tech would be a great fit in the east, new TV markets, natural rivals. That comes down to a question of do they want to and politically would they have to bring Virginia along. Some media folks around here have suggested North Carolina and Duke specifically to bolster basketball. And playing in the SEC would elevate their football but if Duke ever got any better or as good as Vandy at their best, I'd be shocked. Hope Cutcliffe has some success though, even if he spent all those years in Big Orange country. Ole Miss made a huge mistake when they got impatient and fired him after Eli Manning graduated. The Ogeron and Nutt misadventures are their just desserts.

Adding FSU, Georgia Tech, and Clemson is probably a non-starter. As I understand it, Georgia, USC, and the Gators have a gentleman's agreement to vote against another school being added in any of their territories. Besides, Tech had their shot and walked away in '66 though I'm sure there are both Techies and Aubies who'd love to see that series restored.
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Old September 10 2011, 01:57 AM   #20
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Baylor's fucking everything up. Trying to hold up A&M leaving is ultimately pointless and they'll have to give it up at some point. Try to get into Conference USA and get the best deal you can, Baylor. You're a private school. Supposedly the PAC-12 won't make a move to expand further unless the SEC moves first and expands beyond 12, which they can't do while this challenge nonsense is being sorted out.

No, I don't want to go to LA. I want to keep going to Aames, Iowa every year and kiss Texas' ass with its unequal revenue sharing. Hell, I hope State wins it all this year so they can finally get out of OU's shadow. At long last the deluxe indoor practice facility is going to be complete and OSU can compete with the big boys on their own terms.
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Old September 10 2011, 02:10 AM   #21
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I'd be happy to add the Wahoos as well, but they'd be a rather odd fit I think. Aside from VTech, I think their strongest rivalry is Maryland? I could also see West Virginia, but then again they've got such a strong tie with Pittsburgh.

No way you're gonna break up Tobacco Road, so I think Duke and UNC is a nonstarter. I'd rather add the Hokies anyway.

Florida and Georgia can, frankly, go screw themselves.

Dorian, I don't think the Big 12 is long for this world. If the Pac-12 does snatch up who the rumors say they will, that'll leave the Kansas schools, I-State, Baylor and Mizzou without a home. Perhaps combine with the Mountain West, though that would leave Boise as the highest-profile team, amusingly enough.
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Old September 10 2011, 03:14 AM   #22
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and in the latest jab.. some aggies bought billboard space right outside of waco

thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's conference deal. -God
oh i was part of the thread where they came up with the idea.

Baylor's fucking everything up. Trying to hold up A&M leaving is ultimately pointless and they'll have to give it up at some point. Try to get into Conference USA
This.. I hate that a team that has a 18-101 record is "holding us hostage" (quote from our president). Also, thank you texas politics for pushing baylor into the big 12 back in the 90s. Baylor isn't doing the Big 12, or itself, any favors by threatening lawsuits. Who would want to join the Big 12, if Baylor can sue to try to keep schools from leaving? And what conference would want Baylor after this stunt.
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Old September 11 2011, 06:19 AM   #23
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Good Lord.

Did I mention this is going to be a long season for USC??

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Old September 12 2011, 05:11 AM   #24
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Very pleased with the Volunteers yesterday. Very pleased indeed. We've got ourselves a heck of a QB in Tyler Bray, and some excellent receivers. Solid RB too. Next week will be a good stiff test though - bring on the Swamp.

Seeing the damned Tide roll over Penn State on the other hand, much much less pleasant.
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Old September 18 2011, 04:37 AM   #25
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FSU's Seminoles lose out to the Oklahoma Sooners 23-13 by virtue of a few picks, some good offense, and a blown call when one of our guys got knocked unconscious close to the goal line after catching the ball. Instead of giving him that spot, we got saddled with lesser field position and lost an opportunity to offset the loss of our QB in the third quarter.

The good thing is that our player managed to get back to the sideline before the game ended, so things will be looking up for him.
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Old September 18 2011, 05:12 AM   #26
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I watched that game too and yeah, I thought the Seminoles got screwed on that call. A real shame, too--they were playing well.

As for Auburn...much as I want them to do well, what I've feared would happen since I saw their ugly wins the last couple times around has happened. Their offense is still very strong, but the defense keeps crumbling and that is not going to fly. I hope they shape up...
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Old September 18 2011, 06:46 AM   #27
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10 point losses in the Swamp are never never never pleasant.

That said, I take some comfort in the renewed energy the rivalry seems to have, if not the outcome. Bray made a few mistakes, but for his first real road game, he held up well and the Vols defense was nothing short of excellent considering the terrible terrible spots they were put in.

Just hope Justin Hunter's okay, losing him so early changed the whole gameplan...
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Old September 18 2011, 02:18 PM   #28
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I watched that game too and yeah, I thought the Seminoles got screwed on that call. A real shame, too--they were playing well.
Hopefully we won't sink too far down the rankings, considering how well our D was containing them until the picks and the fourth quarter, plus the general strength of our offense. But given how things were shaken up by the Auburn and Ohio State defeats, we might be able to make our way back up the rankings if Clemson and Miami break into the top 25 (Clemson in particular deserves it- I saw that game and thought they pretty much manhandled Auburn after they caught up).
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Old September 18 2011, 04:31 PM   #29
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1. Thank You, Miami! I can almost guarantee Ohio State will still be ranked though... pollsters love them no matter what.
2. BYU being good in Week 1 was a fluke. I need to not pick them for anything the rest of the season.
3. Georgia played a terrible FCS team... nothing to talk about there.

But, most importantly, Jacksonville State defeats Georgia State and gets a much needed win before entering some conference play.
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Old September 18 2011, 04:31 PM   #30
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Nice to see the Gophers get their first win. And it was good to see Jerry Kill back coaching. After seeing him crappie flopping from a seizure on the sidelines last week, I wasn't sure how things were going to go this week.
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