Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) - Page 74

Rocketeer · February 12 2012, 12:23 PM

Scout101 wrote:

Preferable to you strawmanning my arguments, or just repeating the company line, I suppose. Just admitting you aren't reading the post at all has gotta be an improvement over you ignoring the majority of the post in order to nitpick a minor point instead. Skipped the substance of several points in order to nitpick the average join date of the posts in the thread...

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Scout101 · February 12 2012, 03:45 PM

As far as not getting credit for the FE, here's the tip I've learned through 2 years of buggy programming: Once you think you've completed the mission, DON'T LEAVE THE SYSTEM! OPS will try and get you to warp out, but don't do it. if the mission box in the right now says 'report to starfleet' or whatever, go into your missions, find the green checkbox, and turn it in. THEN you can leave the system with your credit. In theory, if there was any customer support, that would be a good place to call in a GM and show them you were finsihed and not getting credit, but we know that takes days, not instant help as advertised.

I used to not get credit on occasion, opened tickets, and eventually they agreed I had completed them, but that they didn't have the power to award me the mission completion anyway, so maybe I should try dropping the mission and starting over. Thanks for the help, guys!

Reason I didn't try this at first on the FE is that I thought there might be more when you get dropped in Bajor. Not sure why the mission completes in the DS9 system and it still makes you go to Bajor, though. Functionality-wise, doesn't make sense, as the mission is complete before that. Eithe warp out to sector space, or give me something to do in Bajor. Along those lines, IN-Universe, why would Bajor be a safe rally point? Shouldn't they get out of the solar system? 2800 enemy ships in the system, and their big rally point is about 5 minutes away at low impulse?

Timelord_Victorious · February 12 2012, 07:15 PM

Milestone achievement: Veteran MACO ground set costume unlocked. It comes with a shield heal/resist and a near instant weapons remodulator build in.
No more 5 second drop out of battle and no weapon swaps! Yay!

Scout101 · February 12 2012, 08:20 PM

Mk XI, I assume? Still, very nice. I've gotten 1 recruit level drop on the ground (shield), and one space Elite drop (also shield), and that's about it. Assuming i'll never beat Cure Ground enough for the Mk XII set unless they tweak the boss, so been saving the chips towards the Mk XI ground set, and I'll take my chances on the space elite gear...

Bird of Prey · February 12 2012, 08:30 PM

Scout101 wrote:

Mk XI, I assume? Still, very nice. I've gotten 1 recruit level drop on the ground (shield), and one space Elite drop (also shield), and that's about it. Assuming i'll never beat Cure Ground enough for the Mk XII set unless they tweak the boss, so been saving the chips towards the Mk XI ground set, and I'll take my chances on the space elite gear...

That's what I've been doing. Saving up the data chips for the Mk XI MACO ground gear, and hoping for MK XII drops in the elite space missions. I still have a long way to go, with only 25 data chips so far.

Scout101 · February 12 2012, 08:49 PM

Sucks the parts don't play together, though. If you got two of the Mk XI parts, and got a Mk XII drop, doesn't make a set.

Honestly, the Prototype Salvage is the most frustrating. 2 Rare Salvage chips get you any Mk XI part (non-set) in the store. 1 Prototype Salvage gets you a Mk XII, which you can't otherwise get. I'd rather the Prototype Salvage be able to be used towards the Mk XII sets, honestly. Even if it took 2 to get one set piece. It would be a 'wild card' that lets you make up for the crappy drop rates, and if you just can't beat, say, Cure Space Elite often enough to get the drops, and are better at Infected or KA, more runs of the other one would still let you complete a set eventually...

Bird of Prey · February 12 2012, 08:55 PM

Scout101 wrote:

Sucks the parts don't play together, though. If you got two of the Mk XI parts, and got a Mk XII drop, doesn't make a set.

Honestly, the Prototype Salvage is the most frustrating. 2 Rare Salvage chips get you any Mk XI part (non-set) in the store. 1 Prototype Salvage gets you a Mk XII, which you can't otherwise get. I'd rather the Prototype Salvage be able to be used towards the Mk XII sets, honestly. Even if it took 2 to get one set piece. It would be a 'wild card' that lets you make up for the crappy drop rates, and if you just can't beat, say, Cure Space Elite often enough to get the drops, and are better at Infected or KA, more runs of the other one would still let you complete a set eventually...

I like that idea.

Scout101 · February 12 2012, 09:43 PM

Otherwise, it means that if you have trouble with one mission (through your own fault, or poor mission design, like both halves of Cure), you'll never get the set, and not to bother.

At least with the wild card, you can beat 2 out of 3, and then go at one of those again to try and pick up a 3rd.

Rocketeer · February 12 2012, 09:49 PM

Scout101 wrote:

As far as not getting credit for the FE, here's the tip I've learned through 2 years of buggy programming: Once you think you've completed the mission, DON'T LEAVE THE SYSTEM! OPS will try and get you to warp out, but don't do it. if the mission box in the right now says 'report to starfleet' or whatever, go into your missions, find the green checkbox, and turn it in. THEN you can leave the system with your credit. In theory, if there was any customer support, that would be a good place to call in a GM and show them you were finsihed and not getting credit, but we know that takes days, not instant help as advertised.

I used to not get credit on occasion, opened tickets, and eventually they agreed I had completed them, but that they didn't have the power to award me the mission completion anyway, so maybe I should try dropping the mission and starting over. Thanks for the help, guys!

Reason I didn't try this at first on the FE is that I thought there might be more when you get dropped in Bajor. Not sure why the mission completes in the DS9 system and it still makes you go to Bajor, though. Functionality-wise, doesn't make sense, as the mission is complete before that. Eithe warp out to sector space, or give me something to do in Bajor. Along those lines, IN-Universe, why would Bajor be a safe rally point? Shouldn't they get out of the solar system? 2800 enemy ships in the system, and their big rally point is about 5 minutes away at low impulse?

Good info, but that's not what's happening in Second Wave.

It's bugged so that sometimes when a player warps to Bajor nothing happens. If you go back to DS9 your progress is at the start of the conference. I've heard that if you're in a team, that only the team leader gets completion.

Scout101 · February 13 2012, 01:25 AM

Right, but my point was that you can turn the mission in while still at Ds9. Don't have to warp anywhere, get completion while in-system

USS Mariner · February 13 2012, 06:53 AM

FUCK CAGE OF FIRE.

My god, the bot pathing is BEYOND BROKEN. My BOs take turns being too stupid to follow a specified point on a bridge two feet in front of their fucking noses without spazzing and diving head first into their the railing or the fire.

JRS · February 13 2012, 08:27 AM

USS Mariner wrote:

FUCK CAGE OF FIRE.
My god, the bot pathing is BEYOND BROKEN. My BOs take turns being too stupid to follow a specified point on a bridge two feet in front of their fucking noses without spazzing and diving head first into their the railing or the fire.

Yeah..that is one buggy mission.
And I had to do this twice, because in the first time I managed to somehow get trough the mission(took a while) the game failed to show the mission as completed. I was not very happy to go back to the bugfest.

Rocketeer · February 13 2012, 09:07 AM

Scout101 wrote:

Right, but my point was that you can turn the mission in while still at Ds9. Don't have to warp anywhere, get completion while in-system

No can do GI. At least not on Second Wave. There is no option to Hail Starfleet. I tried everything before logging out and back in. Then I still had to go through the conference again.

Scout101 · February 13 2012, 12:21 PM

Not sure what to tell you, worked that way for me. Twice. The mission resolved before you actually had to warp to Bajor, so I went into the 'in progress' missions and turned it in first. Never even went to Bajor the 2nd time, just back to sector space...

Timelord_Victorious · February 13 2012, 01:07 PM

Btw, I suspect, that the next episodes starts in the Bajor system.
So when you replay it later, warping there is not relevant to the first part but will result in a better flow of the whole story.

February 12 2012, 03:45 PM	#1097
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) As far as not getting credit for the FE, here's the tip I've learned through 2 years of buggy programming: Once you think you've completed the mission, DON'T LEAVE THE SYSTEM! OPS will try and get you to warp out, but don't do it. if the mission box in the right now says 'report to starfleet' or whatever, go into your missions, find the green checkbox, and turn it in. THEN you can leave the system with your credit. In theory, if there was any customer support, that would be a good place to call in a GM and show them you were finsihed and not getting credit, but we know that takes days, not instant help as advertised. I used to not get credit on occasion, opened tickets, and eventually they agreed I had completed them, but that they didn't have the power to award me the mission completion anyway, so maybe I should try dropping the mission and starting over. Thanks for the help, guys! Reason I didn't try this at first on the FE is that I thought there might be more when you get dropped in Bajor. Not sure why the mission completes in the DS9 system and it still makes you go to Bajor, though. Functionality-wise, doesn't make sense, as the mission is complete before that. Eithe warp out to sector space, or give me something to do in Bajor. Along those lines, IN-Universe, why would Bajor be a safe rally point? Shouldn't they get out of the solar system? 2800 enemy ships in the system, and their big rally point is about 5 minutes away at low impulse? __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

February 12 2012, 07:15 PM	#1098
Timelord_Victorious Rear Admiral	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Milestone achievement: Veteran MACO ground set costume unlocked. It comes with a shield heal/resist and a near instant weapons remodulator build in. No more 5 second drop out of battle and no weapon swaps! Yay!

February 12 2012, 08:20 PM	#1099
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Mk XI, I assume? Still, very nice. I've gotten 1 recruit level drop on the ground (shield), and one space Elite drop (also shield), and that's about it. Assuming i'll never beat Cure Ground enough for the Mk XII set unless they tweak the boss, so been saving the chips towards the Mk XI ground set, and I'll take my chances on the space elite gear... __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

February 12 2012, 08:49 PM	#1101
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Sucks the parts don't play together, though. If you got two of the Mk XI parts, and got a Mk XII drop, doesn't make a set. Honestly, the Prototype Salvage is the most frustrating. 2 Rare Salvage chips get you any Mk XI part (non-set) in the store. 1 Prototype Salvage gets you a Mk XII, which you can't otherwise get. I'd rather the Prototype Salvage be able to be used towards the Mk XII sets, honestly. Even if it took 2 to get one set piece. It would be a 'wild card' that lets you make up for the crappy drop rates, and if you just can't beat, say, Cure Space Elite often enough to get the drops, and are better at Infected or KA, more runs of the other one would still let you complete a set eventually... __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

February 12 2012, 09:43 PM	#1103
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Otherwise, it means that if you have trouble with one mission (through your own fault, or poor mission design, like both halves of Cure), you'll never get the set, and not to bother. At least with the wild card, you can beat 2 out of 3, and then go at one of those again to try and pick up a 3rd. __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

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February 13 2012, 01:25 AM	#1105
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Right, but my point was that you can turn the mission in while still at Ds9. Don't have to warp anywhere, get completion while in-system __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

February 13 2012, 06:53 AM	#1106
USS Mariner Rear Admiral Location: Homestate of Matt Jefferies	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) FUCK CAGE OF FIRE. My god, the bot pathing is BEYOND BROKEN. My BOs take turns being too stupid to follow a specified point on a bridge two feet in front of their fucking noses without spazzing and diving head first into their the railing or the fire. __________________ Ignorance is forgivable, Arrogance is reprehensible, Narcissism is intolerable. *Subspace Commns Network* ~ Visit Marinina!

February 13 2012, 12:21 PM	#1109
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Not sure what to tell you, worked that way for me. Twice. The mission resolved before you actually had to warp to Bajor, so I went into the 'in progress' missions and turned it in first. Never even went to Bajor the 2nd time, just back to sector space... __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

February 13 2012, 01:07 PM	#1110
Timelord_Victorious Rear Admiral	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Btw, I suspect, that the next episodes starts in the Bajor system. So when you replay it later, warping there is not relevant to the first part but will result in a better flow of the whole story.