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Old April 14 2014, 09:30 PM   #4486
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Other than the obligatory "why play as a SCI?" question...

My guess would be either the new Dyson SCI ship, or the Vesta maybe? Seems like the best bang for your buck with powerful ships. Totally depends on what you're going to use for gear, what you have so far, etc. but suspect those are the winners.

Seriously, though, why SCI? Game just isn't geared towards them. It's really a Tank/DPS game, and the other classes aren't locked down too hard, so you make an aggressive tank or tanky DPS machine without too much effort, so SCI being kinda 'ok' at both really doesn't play well. If queues really took teams into account, MAYBE you'd want one SCI per team, but you'd be happier with 4 TACs and an ENG. If you start a STF and see 3-4 SCI, you know the option is likely blown from the start, and maybe even the primary mission if you're playing one that can fail to begin with. in STO, SCI is just the jack of all trades that's not very good at anything.

All my two cents, but worth the conversation. I ran a SCI toon just for completeness, and leveled her to VA, but don't think I did much after that, and haven't kept up with any of the reps or grinds anymore for that one. Just not survivable enough, and can't dish enough damage. You're ok with one or the other, it's a bitch without either...
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Old April 14 2014, 10:01 PM   #4487
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I'm trying Sci because I already have Tac and Eng toons, so I suppose there's the sense of completion like you as well. But I'm finding that I also like playing the support role and lay back while others deal the damage. After all, my Tac and Eng toons already have that part covered. My ultimate plan is to have both a high-end Science ship and a high-end Science/Cruiser hybrid, but need help with the latter.

But to clarify, I'd like recommendations on Cruisers who have a decent bend towards science, not pure-Science vessels - I feel like I can pick pure science on my own and just choose accordingly. I understand that science-leaning cruisers are neither the most versatile nor the toughest by nature, so I'm looking for cruisers with a decent enough mix (Star Cruiser? Odyssey Science? Fleet vs. C-Store options?). So i'm ruling out the Vesta in this question because those are obviously pure science-vessels. Any insights appreciated
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Old April 14 2014, 10:22 PM   #4488
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Is picking the Vesta with the ENG or TAC leaning not 'close enough' to the cruiser you're looking for? Seems like it should work out. As much as the Oddy kinda sucks, the SCI flavor of that is probably your tank-iest cruiser option...
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Old April 14 2014, 10:42 PM   #4489
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Sorry that this is coming piecemeal and confusing, but to clarify further, my current toon is Sci, so I'm looking for a Cruiser that could make the most of my current toon's sci skillset. A sci toon with a sci cruiser is a given, but for my style, a sci toon on a cruiser would be nice to try out.
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Old April 14 2014, 10:43 PM   #4490
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I'm trying Sci because I already have Tac and Eng toons, so I suppose there's the sense of completion like you as well. But I'm finding that I also like playing the support role and lay back while others deal the damage. After all, my Tac and Eng toons already have that part covered. My ultimate plan is to have both a high-end Science ship and a high-end Science/Cruiser hybrid, but need help with the latter.

But to clarify, I'd like recommendations on Cruisers who have a decent bend towards science, not pure-Science vessels - I feel like I can pick pure science on my own and just choose accordingly. I understand that science-leaning cruisers are neither the most versatile nor the toughest by nature, so I'm looking for cruisers with a decent enough mix (Star Cruiser? Odyssey Science? Fleet vs. C-Store options?). So i'm ruling out the Vesta in this question because those are obviously pure science-vessels. Any insights appreciated
Mirror heavy cruiser.
It's pretty spry for a cruiser, and has LTC sci boff seat. Look for them on the exchange, as they are lockbox ships, but I do not think they are very expensive.

ETA: They go for as low as 150,000 EC!

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Old April 14 2014, 11:01 PM   #4491
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The Ambassador class is a sciency cruiser. And them there is the stock starcruiser, the mirror starcruiser (with the Sovereign skin) that have a slight science leaning and the Nebula class is a cruisery science ship and a true hybrid really. Very similar would also be the Vulcan D'Kyr. All good options for what you have in mind to different degrees on the cruiser/science scale.
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Old April 14 2014, 11:20 PM   #4492
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Thanks, all. I hadn't really considered the Mirror vessels, so I'll dig around more deeply.
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Old April 15 2014, 12:05 AM   #4493
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Yeah, and have fun playing as a science captain. DPS is not everything. Plus, science is the most fun on ground!
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Old April 15 2014, 12:13 AM   #4494
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It's my preference to play to have fun. This is why my KDF Gorn has an all Gorn bridge crew, even though Gorn have no helpful space traits. It's also why my Romulan engineer flies a D'deridex. And why I don't use an A2Battery build, the idea of which seems really boring to me.

It's also why I love PUGs, because there's actually a chance of something getting cocked up.

Of course, if you enjoy min-maxing, then by all means do that. But just have fun in any case.
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Old April 15 2014, 03:40 AM   #4495
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I have more science officers than tactical officers because I feel it fits my notion of what a Starfleet officer should be.

Yes, my characters all do at least 10k dps (even science officers in science vessels), but I am not dps focused. Most of the dps comes from top end (reputation/fleet/lobi) gear I have earned through playing, combined with knowledge on how to build my ships to deal damage without sacrificing too much on defence and other cool stuff.
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Old April 15 2014, 09:23 AM   #4496
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Ditto on what the others said about the SCI character.

Not a good class to solo (for me). You won't get much glory, but can be a big boost to a team, even a PUG.
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Old April 15 2014, 10:08 AM   #4497
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Funny enough talking about Sci, i was cleaning out my bank and i had a temporal box in it, god knows how long it has been sitting there, i was just about to discard it when i saw i had two keys, so i used them, and bingo, Temporal sci ship.

Gave it a go and and yes, Sci is not much on DPS, never was, but you can help the team a lot with gravity well, knocking systems offline, healing and the likes, just don't try and take a tac cube on by yourself. lol
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Old April 15 2014, 12:43 PM   #4498
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I have to disagree, my sci officers routinely take on tac cubes with ease.
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Old April 15 2014, 12:52 PM   #4499
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I have to disagree, my sci officers routinely take on tac cubes with ease.
Yeah, you might not explode them in 3 seconds, or soak up huge damage, but you can turn those tac cubes into toothless epohh puppies if you want.
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Old April 15 2014, 05:17 PM   #4500
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Since I reinstalled the game on my new laptop I can't figure out where my screenshots are going. Does anyone know if ARC sends them to a different location?
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