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Old March 3 2014, 10:28 AM   #4336
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Yeah players will always go for the most optimal way of improving their characters. Yet, I wonder how Cryptic feels about how many new events they have created which nobody plays. Its poor ROI for them. And I wonder if they will change the way they design events.

Totally unrelated question: For some reason, I can't find the page announcing the new Galaxy bundle at startrekonline.com. Does the new bundle come with a cloaking device? If so, which is it a normal cloak or a battle cloak?
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Old March 3 2014, 11:51 AM   #4337
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Totally unrelated question: For some reason, I can't find the page announcing the new Galaxy bundle at startrekonline.com. Does the new bundle come with a cloaking device? If so, which is it a normal cloak or a battle cloak?

Battle Cloak?

No, Feds don't have that. Klingons only get that on their Bops while only Romulans have it as their standard (though considering the Defiant's cloak is Romulan in design it really should be one.
The Cloak is included in the Galaxy X purchase, so should also come with the bundle.
The Antimatter Spread console comes with the Venture class and the Saucer Separation with the Galaxy Retrofit.
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Old March 5 2014, 01:13 PM   #4338
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I'm still deciding if I should get the Galaxy Bundle... A little help? XD

Con:
I cannot see any of my characters using any of these ships regularly.
Any feasible build is bound to require dual Aux2Batt to beef up its miserable dps. And I don't like dual Aux2Batt builds.
I have no idea what boff power to use for the Cmdr Engineering slot.

Pro:
My characters currently don't have access to a cloaking device.
Its the freaking Galaxy Class. It would be nice as part of my "Ships of the Enterprise" collection in STO.
The Venture class looks nice.
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Old March 5 2014, 01:51 PM   #4339
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Not the link you're seeking but it has some info on the Galaxy updates.


http://www.startrek.com/article/galaxy-class-reboot
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Old March 5 2014, 06:16 PM   #4340
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I wouldn't bother. I don't use them now, and not seeing anything in the 'update' that would entice me to change my mind. If you haven't already wasted money on them, no reason to jump in late. If you just want to look at it, get the regular version for cheap and don't buy the Z-store versions. Just gonna park in your garage and pull out once in a while to look at, don't buy the expensive one for that...
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Old March 5 2014, 07:06 PM   #4341
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i have to agree. If you don't want to use it regularly and are content with the low DPS numbers and good tanking abilities go for the fleet version and be done with it.
If you want to get a cloak get the Defiant retrofit instead.

It's pretty easy to get the 4 fleet modules for the fleet version. We are not even thaaaat far off from unlocking T4 shipyard ourselves to make it available and there is always that charity channel to get an ivite for it.

The Bundle is only interesting if you are really interested in all 3 ships anyway.

The set Bonus is completely uninteresting, you get better stats with fleet consoles and the antimatter spread is a gimmick and won't save your ass anymore than a fleet resistance console which boosts your stats ALL the time, not just for 5-10 seconds every 3 minutes.
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Old March 5 2014, 07:21 PM   #4342
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I gotta admit, the fact that it has a hanger bay makes the Dreadnaught a bit more appealing IMO! Still doesn't seem worth it. I would buy for the Cloaking Device, but I would want to put it on my Fleet Battle Cruiser, which I don't think I can do, can I?
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Old March 5 2014, 08:34 PM   #4343
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Federation ships that can use the cloaking device from Galaxy-X dreadnaught or Defiant Retrofit:

(Fleet) Galaxy X (cloak from C-Store version)
(Fleet) Defiant Retrofit (cloak from C-Store version or Veteran token version)
Avenger Class variants

That's about it.
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Old March 5 2014, 08:48 PM   #4344
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Timelord Victorious wrote: View Post
Federation ships that can use the cloaking device from Galaxy-X dreadnaught or Defiant Retrofit:

(Fleet) Galaxy X (cloak from C-Store version)
(Fleet) Defiant Retrofit (cloak from C-Store version or Veteran token version)
Avenger Class variants

That's about it.
The Fleet Battle Cruiser is the Avenger Class is it not? So i should be able to use the cloak? I think I remember reading that it can!

*EDIT: Checked myself, yes I can equip Cloaking Device from Dreadnaught Cruiser & Tactical Escort Retrofit on Avenger Class Fleet Battle Cruiser.

*ADD: Thats still like 2,000 Zen / $20 just to add Cloak to my ship though :S
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Old March 6 2014, 01:59 PM   #4345
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Yup, I think I'll skip the galaxy bundle and instead get two ships, the Avenger Battle Cruiser and the Defiant Retrofit for the cloaking device. So the Fleet Avenger will be my final ship for my andorian tactical officer who's currently still using the freebie Breen Chel'Gret from two christmases ago.
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Old March 6 2014, 07:09 PM   #4346
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Yup, I think I'll skip the galaxy bundle and instead get two ships, the Avenger Battle Cruiser and the Defiant Retrofit for the cloaking device. So the Fleet Avenger will be my final ship for my andorian tactical officer who's currently still using the freebie Breen Chel'Gret from two christmases ago.
Get the Fleet Battle Cruiser!
I just don't know if its worth getting the Defiant Retrofit just for the Cloaking Device. I don't even like the Defiant and would probably end up getting rid of the ship itself.
Is having a cloaking device really worth it?
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Old March 6 2014, 07:27 PM   #4347
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Not really. It's not the same as the Battle Cloak the KDF side gets, so kinda pointless gimmick mostly. Can use it to sneak close, but can't cloak again until out of battle, so...

The Quad Phasers are kinda neat, but mostly in how they look vice usability. Used to be good, but too many things have progressed for them to still be top end. And only comes in Phaser form, so if you want to use any other type, completely useless.
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Old March 6 2014, 07:35 PM   #4348
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I can not install a cloak in a Vesta class ship?
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Old March 6 2014, 07:37 PM   #4349
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There is a neat visual update to the Defiant, if it's the looks you don't like. That ship costume however comes with the T4 Sao Paolo class version of the ship and unlocks it for the T5 versions, too.
So of course, you'd have to buy that one as well.
The Sao Paolo is the one that comes with the quad cannons, the T5 Retrofit has the cloak.
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Old March 7 2014, 05:30 AM   #4350
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What are your (everyone's) experiences regarding Reputations?

In retrospect, I am a bit behind in getting on my Rep grind, but I've been full timing it on my Fleet. I've just started figuring out the Rep system and Ive started doing other PvEs that are not just for Fleet Marks. But I find myself mostly working on Dyson. no real reason. I did read up on the bonus of completing Tier V in each, but I'm unsure of which reputations might be better then others to complete first?
I know everyone will have their own opinions, but that's what I want to hear And I know some people will say work on everyone at once, and yes thats true, but sometimes I don't have time and would just like to figure out what, if anything, to prioritize!
Personally, just from reading the buffs from each, and since I'm mostly a space kinda guy, I was thinking of going for either Omega or Romulus first. Leaning towards Omega. But Ill probably keep working on Dyson now as well since Im almost Tier 2 already.

Do you have Reputations you complete(d) first or prioritize?
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