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Old November 16 2013, 10:37 PM   #4006
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Thanks for the offer of help. I'm so burned out right now I need a break. I may not continue, especially if the game is mostly space flight. That's the only part of the game I didn't like.
I am steering with WASD which is the default setting. I don't know how to switch to the mouse. I'd think I'd be able to steer better with the mouse.
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Old November 16 2013, 10:47 PM   #4007
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yeah, you can change the setting to what you prefer... Don't give up so fast. You may still grow to like it. And it's really best to team up with a veteran to learn the ropes better than the tutorial could ever teach you.

And holding down both mouse buttons lets you steer without changing anything, though that means you should use keys to activate abilities which is probably the better gamer set-up anyway. But I never had the patience to commit all those commands to muscle memory, so I just stick to steering with WASD which works alright for me (except when sling shotting around a sun to time travel , which definitely easier with the mouse )
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Old November 17 2013, 01:04 AM   #4008
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I've never gotten the hang of steering with the mouse. WASD all the way, bro!
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Old November 17 2013, 04:59 AM   #4009
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The free tribble is likely only available for characters who were created prior to the launch of season 8 on Nov 12. So chances are you do not qualify for it. Anyway its a very minor reward, most players view it as useless so it doesn't really matter if you have it.

I second Timelord's suggestion of teaming up with a player with more experience who can show you the ropes. As for piloting the starship, just keep practicing. The starter ship is known to be a very slow and clunky ship, both in speed and turn rate. I know how frustrating it can be to pilot that ship, I just keep yelling "Come on, move your ass!" at my screen XD

The good thing is you should be level 4 or 5 by this time and can abandon the starter ship at level 10. You will get a choice of 3 different types of ships, Kirk's Constitution class cruiser, Oberth Science Vessel and Archer's "Akiraprise" Light Escort. There are 3 other ships to pick from but you'll have to pay money for them (and totally not worth the cost, so don't).

Cruisers are the beefy ships, moves slowly, has medium attacks but can take a lot of damage. Science vessels are faster than cruisers, has weak attacks but is good at sciencey effects that can take down shields, hold ships in place, etc.. Escorts are zippy and fast, has strong attacks but blow up easily.
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Old November 17 2013, 08:51 AM   #4010
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The good thing is you should be level 4 or 5 by this time and can abandon the starter ship at level 10. You will get a choice of 3 different types of ships, Kirk's Constitution class cruiser, Oberth Science Vessel and Archer's "Akiraprise" Light Escort. There are 3 other ships to pick from but you'll have to pay money for them (and totally not worth the cost, so don't).
Here I have to correct you.
The NX Class, the Oberth and the original Constitution are all C-Store ships and can be bought at starter level. if he bought them he could replace the Miranda.
At level 10 you can choose between a Constitution Refit, a Nova class science ship or a Saber class escort for free.
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Old November 17 2013, 10:49 AM   #4011
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I've never gotten the hang of steering with the mouse. WASD all the way, bro!
I have a hybrid style I go forward with (w) but do most of the steering with the right mouse button. But several of my friends swear by the both mouse button technique
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Old November 17 2013, 03:10 PM   #4012
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The good thing is you should be level 4 or 5 by this time and can abandon the starter ship at level 10. You will get a choice of 3 different types of ships, Kirk's Constitution class cruiser, Oberth Science Vessel and Archer's "Akiraprise" Light Escort. There are 3 other ships to pick from but you'll have to pay money for them (and totally not worth the cost, so don't).
Here I have to correct you.
The NX Class, the Oberth and the original Constitution are all C-Store ships and can be bought at starter level. if he bought them he could replace the Miranda.
At level 10 you can choose between a Constitution Refit, a Nova class science ship or a Saber class escort for free.
Oops, my bad. I mis-read the wiki page. But yeah the ship types still apply, Constitution Refit == Cruiser, Nova == Science Vessel, Saber == Escort.


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I've never gotten the hang of steering with the mouse. WASD all the way, bro!
Its not exactly WASD vs mouse piloting. Each has their advantages so the key is knowing when to use the keyboard and when to use the mouse.

Typically, I prefer to pilot with the mouse by pressing both mouse buttons down. The advantage is that the camera is turning with your ship so its a simple point and aim system. It is great for out of combat movement.

Using WASD doesn't turn your camera and as a result I find that it is difficult to point the ship in the right direction. Having said that, I use WASD a lot during ship combat to make minor tweaks to my ship's orientation and speed to keep weapons pointed at a moving target, especially when I'm flying in reverse.
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Old November 17 2013, 07:55 PM   #4013
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Never could handle flying with WASD or mouse, I mapped flight controls to an XBox joypad, torps on LT, beams on RT. RB/LB for impulse settings, D-pad for power presets. Use keyboard still for powers. Thumbsticks control direction and also camera view.
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Old November 17 2013, 08:08 PM   #4014
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Never could handle flying with WASD or mouse, I mapped flight controls to an XBox joypad, torps on LT, beams on RT. RB/LB for impulse settings, D-pad for power presets. Use keyboard still for powers. Thumbsticks control direction and also camera view.
I use the Xbox controller for Champions Online but it never felt right for me in STO. Don't know why they are the same engine
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Old November 18 2013, 06:51 PM   #4015
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Ok, I need to vent for a moment.

I have been spending time in the Battleground, accumulating enough marks to buy the commendations I need to get to max rep.

I am seeing people run into the various areas and not join the fight. They stay on the finges and seem to wait for the battle to end to get the marks and dilithium. They also jump in and grab the command points, even though they didn't contribute.

It really annoyed me when i was trying to take a section of the city by myself. I tend to jump in and wait for others to come and help out. I can usually hold my own for most of a fight, until you get past 2/3.

Two people came into the area and stayed on the edges. But since they were there, that ramped up the difficulty and more mobs showed up. I got my ass handed to me. When I went down, they left instead of jumping in.

There has to be a way of making these people play or get out.
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Old November 18 2013, 07:39 PM   #4016
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Ok, I need to vent for a moment.

I have been spending time in the Battleground, accumulating enough marks to buy the commendations I need to get to max rep.

I am seeing people run into the various areas and not join the fight. They stay on the finges and seem to wait for the battle to end to get the marks and dilithium. They also jump in and grab the command points, even though they didn't contribute.

It really annoyed me when i was trying to take a section of the city by myself. I tend to jump in and wait for others to come and help out. I can usually hold my own for most of a fight, until you get past 2/3.

Two people came into the area and stayed on the edges. But since they were there, that ramped up the difficulty and more mobs showed up. I got my ass handed to me. When I went down, they left instead of jumping in.

There has to be a way of making these people play or get out.
Yeah, kite the mobs over to them and then stealth out of there.
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Old November 18 2013, 08:12 PM   #4017
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Season 8 seems to be missing an overall STORY or something. Seems really aimless; i just wander around and find little mini-challenge missions, but not overly sure what I'm supposed to be doing or why. I guess it's supposed to be unlocked through the rep system, but what drives you getting the commendations instead of the marks? loading up on marks, but can't seem to gain ground on commendations.

Either way, feels like there's an overall wrapper/guidance missing on this mission. It fell kinda flat with me. And due to the size, it's a giant PITA to get around anywhere and do the space or ground missions. Visually very interesting, but not much to hold attention. And yeah, the 'observers' running in and grabbing rewards without helping is a definite problem. In the ground part, i find myself clearing most of a section of the city completely alone, and only occasionally run into another person helping.

Without more engaging storyline, this will be as dead as Defera once people start to get the reputation ground through. Pretty, but pointless. And the missions were just a couple tutorials, was hoping for more storyline content like the FE started us out on. Instead just a tutorial and mini-games...
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Old November 18 2013, 08:33 PM   #4018
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Season 8 seems to be missing an overall STORY or something. Seems really aimless; i just wander around and find little mini-challenge missions, but not overly sure what I'm supposed to be doing or why. I guess it's supposed to be unlocked through the rep system, but what drives you getting the commendations instead of the marks? loading up on marks, but can't seem to gain ground on commendations.

Either way, feels like there's an overall wrapper/guidance missing on this mission. It fell kinda flat with me. And due to the size, it's a giant PITA to get around anywhere and do the space or ground missions. Visually very interesting, but not much to hold attention. And yeah, the 'observers' running in and grabbing rewards without helping is a definite problem. In the ground part, i find myself clearing most of a section of the city completely alone, and only occasionally run into another person helping.

Without more engaging storyline, this will be as dead as Defera once people start to get the reputation ground through. Pretty, but pointless. And the missions were just a couple tutorials, was hoping for more storyline content like the FE started us out on. Instead just a tutorial and mini-games...
You can spend 350 marks to buy 5 commendations. And at 2500 a commendation, you only need 40 to max out your rep. I should be done with tier 2 when I get home today, and have 18 commendations already. I think 15 more should do it, which I should have before the weekend. Then I can just stock up a few marks for completing the tiers and I won't need to return to the sphere unless there's something worth buying in the rep store.
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Old November 19 2013, 09:25 AM   #4019
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I agree with Vendikarr. I was getting frustrated on the both the ship and ground combat with players hanging on the edge. That plus it seemed like the ones that did participate had no clue on how to work as a team. Have all the *good* players left the game? :-/

Season 8 crashed my game (just like Season 7) and required a total re-install. Still can't get it to work on my laptop.

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Old November 19 2013, 10:39 PM   #4020
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Ten Ton Hammer are giving away the Motion Picture uniform for free.
If anyone is still missing that one you can pick it up here.

http://giveaways.tentonhammer.com/giveaway/10
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