Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) - Page 218

J. Allen · March 11 2013, 06:01 PM

I have my retro STF gear, fleet store weapons, and have been flying my Ambassador. There's no need for any kind of upgrade right now. I don't PvP like I used to, mainly due to min/maxers who don't die ever and are always found in groups, and the STFs I could sleep through. I am playing Battlefield 1942, though.

Captain_Amasov · March 11 2013, 06:43 PM

Aeolusdallas wrote:

Captain_Amasov wrote:

intrinsical wrote:

The only thing that stumped me a little is the class system and class abilities. Part of it stems from me know very little about 4th edition D&D rules. All classes only get to use 3 at-will abilities, 3 encounter abilities and 3 daily abilities? Also, I'm not getting why we're picking specialized classes at character creation time. For example, if I picked the class Control Wizard at character creation, does it mean I can't be another type of wizard in the future when Cryptic adds more wizard types? That just seem like a very strange game design.

The 4th edition has these if I remember:

Cleric: Devoted or Battle
Fighter: Guardian or Great Weapon
Paladin: Avenging or Protecting
Ranger: Archer or Two-Blade
Rogue: Trickster or Brawny
Warlock: Deceptive or Scourge
Warlord: Inspiring or Tactical
Wizard: Control or War

With Neverwinter, you can't swap between being a Guardian or Great Weapon Fighter, because they are flagged as two individual classes. It'll be the same once they add in new kinds of wizards or clerics too. I'd have much preferred had they just had Fighter, and then allowed you to use those trait paths to determine what kind of Fighter you'd like to be.

Now, someone had delved into the HOGG files in Neverwinter and found some interesting evidence that two of the next character classes maybe the Archer Ranger and the Scourge Warlock. Whether they'll actually be the next two remains to be seen, as some kind of Bard class has also been mentioned as well.

My brother wants them to add Sword Mage so badly. I want Warlord , Druid and Wardens.

I guess Scourge Warlock is further along than I thought:

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3033/warlockk.jpg

Speaking of stuff found, someone apparently found a faction picture for the Romulans in STO's Gateway. Usually these are only for player factions, probably not gonna happen for the upcoming update in May, but maybe we'll see the start of it?

Blamo · March 11 2013, 09:24 PM

Lets see, I've been PvPing like I've been doing for the last 3 years. It's really the only thing in the game that I find consistently exciting. That is unless you're up against a premade with three healers, in which case it's a yawn fest.

I've stopped flying my Andorian escort for a while as ROFLstomping players and NPCs is boring. I'm instead flying a Galaxy-X. It's working out surprisingly well. My fleet just got access to elite fleet shields, so that's something new to mess around with.

Also been grinding dilithium.

intrinsical · March 12 2013, 03:37 AM

Like many here, I have 2 maxed out, 3 nearly maxed out and 1 freshly made character and am finding it boring. Getting what I want for the new character now requires so much dilithium and what nots that I'm pretty demotivated in kitting him out with the greatest. What's more, devs have said Season 8 is primarily targeted at new players so I suspect there isn't going to be a wealth of new content for us old timers. At best, I anticipate a new adventure zone and a new reputation faction to grind in season 8.

As for a romulan faction... *yawn* By this time I have so much invested in the Federation in terms of unlocked c-store starships and unique fed-only consoles that I don't even bothered to max out my current 2 kdf characters. So I don't see why I would create a new romulan faction character.

So if Cryptic add my favorite classes, Druids and Rangers, I'll may just jump on the NWN bandwagon instead.

Scout101 · March 12 2013, 03:42 AM

That's kinda the problem. Yes, the random element sucked, but at least you had a chance of getting the max gear on your non-primary toon. Now, i've kinda given up on having it on anyone but my primary. The DIL cost, the time, EC cost, so much grinding. Yes, you definitely get it, but it's brutal and expensive to get there, so just can't sustain doing things that many times in a row.

So I've just got the maxed out toon that sits there bored, and i pick at a couple alts at a slower pace towards Rep.

Biggest problem all along has been that once you get the gear, there's nothing to DO with it. Only thing it's useful for is the thing you were grinding for months to EARN it, so by the time you get the reward, you can't stand to play the place it's useful.

Rocketeer · March 12 2013, 10:04 AM

I'm in a lull as far as STO. I play SWTOR for 30-45 mins. Participated in the NW betas. Once it goes live though, I'll probably just play occasionally. DnD style games aren't fun for me unless I'm with a group.

Bird of Prey · March 12 2013, 02:25 PM

I recently acquired the Ferengi D'Kora Marauder. It's a fun little ship, and the fact that it has all the DOFF assignments, bank, exchange, mail and even a dabo table on the bridge just add to the fun of it all. I've made it a cannon boat, loaded with fleet MK XII DHC, quad cannons, and fleet Mk XII photon torpedoes. I did the grind to get the ship, now comes the grind to get enough lobi to purchase the three set pieces. I haven't switched ships in a while, and doing so adds a new element to the grind.

Ruaidhri · March 15 2013, 05:52 PM

Been spending the time just accumulating marks, dilithium and EC to further kit out my ships, particularly on the KDF side. And to keep contributing bits to the star bases and embassies. And also to get a little zen to unlock more doff roster spaces.

But I've also played next to no foundry missions, and am thinking of playing stuff in there now.

Rocketeer · March 18 2013, 02:43 PM

Not sure what's going on with the Exocomp DOFF. One character was able to pick it up and another wasn't (neither character had it before).

Patrick O'Brien · March 19 2013, 01:42 PM

Rocketeer wrote:

Not sure what's going on with the Exocomp DOFF. One character was able to pick it up and another wasn't (neither character had it before).

I had the same problem

intrinsical · March 20 2013, 09:24 AM

Recently, I've been seeing many claims on the STO forums of science vessels such as the Vesta or cruisers like the Regent hitting 8k to 10k dps in STFs, mostly in ISEs.

So I have been trying to get similar results with my ships. My aim is lower, I know that the above average escort does 6k to 7k dps so I would be happy if I can nudge my science vessel or cruiser to above average levels and get 5k to 6k dps. However, regardless of how I try, what equipment I get the best result I can get is around 4.2k dps. Anyone know what I am doing wrong or are these forum posters just exaggerating their claims?

Ruaidhri · March 20 2013, 12:11 PM

I've seen a couple of those threads. Seems like there is some way to add to your DPS by attacking things that won't die. Useless DPS, so to speak, like you would get by attacking the gate before both transformers are blown. Or attacking a transformer with all the gennies still active, or if it's being healed by a nanite sphere.

I definitely think they're jobbing it in some way to inflate their numbers.

Bird of Prey · March 20 2013, 02:21 PM

Less than 1 day to go until the big announcement.

http://sto.perfectworld.com/sto_may2013

Scout101 · March 20 2013, 04:24 PM

I'll prepare for the disappointment.

One area they don't skimp on is hype. Following through on the hype, and the expectations it creates? Not as much. And you can be sure that whatever they DO release, they'll have thought out poorly, and they won't be back to tweak it, unless it's working ok, in which case, expect the nerf

What are we expecting for the announcement? We know "not-Season 8" is coming, which in theory will have new zone, new missions, etc. Maybe a Romulan faction, but since they can't even figure out TWO factions, not sure 3 will be an improvement. Maybe actually focusing on content, or endgame, or finishing Klingon faction? Safe bet is probably a shiny new $25 ship we can buy (or 3 variants for $50)...

Blamo · March 20 2013, 08:29 PM

I don't know, the new romulan area was MUCH more than I expected (but then I have low expectations).

If they are releasing a Romulan faction (which seems pretty likely), It'll probably be a subfaction to KDF & Feds. If lucky they might get a few exclusive missions, but a lot of it will probably be Fed and KDF content, depending on which side you pick.

March 11 2013, 06:01 PM	#3256
J. Allen Probably Satan™ Location: A Quantum State	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) I have my retro STF gear, fleet store weapons, and have been flying my Ambassador. There's no need for any kind of upgrade right now. I don't PvP like I used to, mainly due to min/maxers who don't die ever and are always found in groups, and the STFs I could sleep through. I am playing Battlefield 1942, though. __________________ “In all of the time forward, and backward, throughout the universe, we have all been alive and dead, and all at the same time.”

March 11 2013, 09:24 PM	#3258
Blamo Fleet Captain Location: UK	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Lets see, I've been PvPing like I've been doing for the last 3 years. It's really the only thing in the game that I find consistently exciting. That is unless you're up against a premade with three healers, in which case it's a yawn fest. I've stopped flying my Andorian escort for a while as ROFLstomping players and NPCs is boring. I'm instead flying a Galaxy-X. It's working out surprisingly well. My fleet just got access to elite fleet shields, so that's something new to mess around with. Also been grinding dilithium.

March 12 2013, 03:37 AM	#3259
intrinsical Fleet Captain	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Like many here, I have 2 maxed out, 3 nearly maxed out and 1 freshly made character and am finding it boring. Getting what I want for the new character now requires so much dilithium and what nots that I'm pretty demotivated in kitting him out with the greatest. What's more, devs have said Season 8 is primarily targeted at new players so I suspect there isn't going to be a wealth of new content for us old timers. At best, I anticipate a new adventure zone and a new reputation faction to grind in season 8. As for a romulan faction... yawn By this time I have so much invested in the Federation in terms of unlocked c-store starships and unique fed-only consoles that I don't even bothered to max out my current 2 kdf characters. So I don't see why I would create a new romulan faction character. So if Cryptic add my favorite classes, Druids and Rangers, I'll may just jump on the NWN bandwagon instead. __________________ USS Sentinel, Luna Class (STO) Last edited by intrinsical; March 12 2013 at 03:53 AM.

March 12 2013, 03:42 AM	#3260
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) That's kinda the problem. Yes, the random element sucked, but at least you had a chance of getting the max gear on your non-primary toon. Now, i've kinda given up on having it on anyone but my primary. The DIL cost, the time, EC cost, so much grinding. Yes, you definitely get it, but it's brutal and expensive to get there, so just can't sustain doing things that many times in a row. So I've just got the maxed out toon that sits there bored, and i pick at a couple alts at a slower pace towards Rep. Biggest problem all along has been that once you get the gear, there's nothing to DO with it. Only thing it's useful for is the thing you were grinding for months to EARN it, so by the time you get the reward, you can't stand to play the place it's useful. __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

March 12 2013, 10:04 AM	#3261
Rocketeer Captain Location: Heidelberg, Germany	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) I'm in a lull as far as STO. I play SWTOR for 30-45 mins. Participated in the NW betas. Once it goes live though, I'll probably just play occasionally. DnD style games aren't fun for me unless I'm with a group.

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March 12 2013, 02:25 PM	#3262
Bird of Prey Captain Location: Bird of Prey - Ontario, Canada	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) I recently acquired the Ferengi D'Kora Marauder. It's a fun little ship, and the fact that it has all the DOFF assignments, bank, exchange, mail and even a dabo table on the bridge just add to the fun of it all. I've made it a cannon boat, loaded with fleet MK XII DHC, quad cannons, and fleet Mk XII photon torpedoes. I did the grind to get the ship, now comes the grind to get enough lobi to purchase the three set pieces. I haven't switched ships in a while, and doing so adds a new element to the grind. __________________ Peter: Sorry Meg. Daddy loves ya, but Daddy also loves Star Trek, and in all fairness, Star Trek was here first. ------------------- Star Trek Online avatars - Bailey@Kahlua17, Scout@Kahlua17

March 15 2013, 05:52 PM	#3263
Ruaidhri Commodore Location: Ruaidhri...Toronto in body, Philly in spirit!	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Been spending the time just accumulating marks, dilithium and EC to further kit out my ships, particularly on the KDF side. And to keep contributing bits to the star bases and embassies. And also to get a little zen to unlock more doff roster spaces. But I've also played next to no foundry missions, and am thinking of playing stuff in there now. __________________ Sunt lacrimae rerum et mentem mortalia tangunt. These are the tears of things, and the stuff of our mortality cuts us to the heart. An Informed Approximation

March 18 2013, 02:43 PM	#3264
Rocketeer Captain Location: Heidelberg, Germany	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Not sure what's going on with the Exocomp DOFF. One character was able to pick it up and another wasn't (neither character had it before).

March 20 2013, 09:24 AM	#3266
intrinsical Fleet Captain	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Recently, I've been seeing many claims on the STO forums of science vessels such as the Vesta or cruisers like the Regent hitting 8k to 10k dps in STFs, mostly in ISEs. So I have been trying to get similar results with my ships. My aim is lower, I know that the above average escort does 6k to 7k dps so I would be happy if I can nudge my science vessel or cruiser to above average levels and get 5k to 6k dps. However, regardless of how I try, what equipment I get the best result I can get is around 4.2k dps. Anyone know what I am doing wrong or are these forum posters just exaggerating their claims? __________________ USS Sentinel, Luna Class (STO)

March 20 2013, 12:11 PM	#3267
Ruaidhri Commodore Location: Ruaidhri...Toronto in body, Philly in spirit!	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) I've seen a couple of those threads. Seems like there is some way to add to your DPS by attacking things that won't die. Useless DPS, so to speak, like you would get by attacking the gate before both transformers are blown. Or attacking a transformer with all the gennies still active, or if it's being healed by a nanite sphere. I definitely think they're jobbing it in some way to inflate their numbers. __________________ Sunt lacrimae rerum et mentem mortalia tangunt. These are the tears of things, and the stuff of our mortality cuts us to the heart. An Informed Approximation

March 20 2013, 02:21 PM	#3268
Bird of Prey Captain Location: Bird of Prey - Ontario, Canada	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Less than 1 day to go until the big announcement. http://sto.perfectworld.com/sto_may2013 __________________ Peter: Sorry Meg. Daddy loves ya, but Daddy also loves Star Trek, and in all fairness, Star Trek was here first. ------------------- Star Trek Online avatars - Bailey@Kahlua17, Scout@Kahlua17

March 20 2013, 04:24 PM	#3269
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) I'll prepare for the disappointment. One area they don't skimp on is hype. Following through on the hype, and the expectations it creates? Not as much. And you can be sure that whatever they DO release, they'll have thought out poorly, and they won't be back to tweak it, unless it's working ok, in which case, expect the nerf What are we expecting for the announcement? We know "not-Season 8" is coming, which in theory will have new zone, new missions, etc. Maybe a Romulan faction, but since they can't even figure out TWO factions, not sure 3 will be an improvement. Maybe actually focusing on content, or endgame, or finishing Klingon faction? Safe bet is probably a shiny new $25 ship we can buy (or 3 variants for $50)... __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

March 20 2013, 08:29 PM	#3270
Blamo Fleet Captain Location: UK	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) I don't know, the new romulan area was MUCH more than I expected (but then I have low expectations). If they are releasing a Romulan faction (which seems pretty likely), It'll probably be a subfaction to KDF & Feds. If lucky they might get a few exclusive missions, but a lot of it will probably be Fed and KDF content, depending on which side you pick.